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Security Measures For Air Force One  
User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 22109 times:

What measures does Air Force One take when overflying other countries' airspace. Does it get a fighter escort?


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User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 21854 times:

Surely somebody out there knows?


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 21829 times:

Given that there's a war on, I gather that most folks don't think it's prudent to discuss this topic.

If you contact the US Secret Service, I'm sure they could tell you... (But -would- they?)


User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 21771 times:

There are many books available in the bookstore specifically about Air Force One. Many of its security features are classified, but I believe AF1 is NOT typically under fighter escort.


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineWilcharl From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1168 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 21686 times:

the discovery channel sopecail said its not under escort by the other nations aircraft, as if a midair would occoure, it couldnt be blamed on the other nation. the man interviewed stated that other nations normally offer figher escort but it is AF1 policy to turn them down

User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 21675 times:

I was under the impression that AF1 always had U.S. Fighter escort...?



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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 21637 times:

What if they were flying and suddenly some other stolen fighter with a missle intercepts it, locks on radar and fire? and the missile IR jammer fails?

User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 21610 times:

Airbus Lover,

Exit Bush.

I've seen AF1 twice at BRU, not ones it was escorted by fighter jets.



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User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 21569 times:

Airbus Lover,

There is only one answer to that question:

BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!
Then there would also be a new election.


User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 21560 times:

Air Force One is supposedly one of the most heavily modified 747-200 series aircraft ever. Besides having many systems from the -400 series, it also supposedly has various anti-missile defense systems. There are no specifics, but supposedly, the great bird can fend off an attack fairly well on her own. Plus, she is piloted by some of the Air Force's finest. While a 742 is not exactly a fighter jet, I'm sure the cockpit crew are well-trained in evasive manoevres to keep the president out of harm's way.

User currently offlineCcrlR From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 21570 times:
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BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!
Then there would also be a new election.


Nope then Dick Cheney would be president.

Air Force One has a lot of devices to prevent that from happening from a Surface to Air Missle to something like that.



"He was right, it is a screaming metal deathtrap!"-Cosmo (from the Fairly Oddparents)
User currently offlineUSAir330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 830 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 21489 times:

Air Force one doesn't use fighter escort BUT there is always a fighter jet in the area incase of any threats..... That is a fact by the way....

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 21460 times:

I hate George Bush with a burning passion.

But he is 1000 times preferable to having Dick Cheney the Nazi as president.

I always wondered why AFO wasn't a 747-400 - they were in production by the time it was built.

N


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 21472 times:

Dont worry, if Cheney became President... all you'd have to do is yell "boo!", he'd have a heart attack [not like he hasnt had a few thousand already], and we'd have new election.

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 21467 times:

No.

The Speaker of the House would become President.

Then, if he dies, the President of the Senate pro tempore would be the President.

But only for 30 days.. then the Senate and House meet in a joint session and elect from the Congress a new President and Vice President, and declare open vacancies in the Congress - which are filled by appointment of the State Governor in question.

Edited to add the "But only for 30 days..." part.

N

[Edited 2003-03-23 02:07:10]

User currently offlineShaun3000 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 21415 times:

Edit -- nevermind, I didin't read the entire post he responded to. You can probably figure out what I said if you read the previous two posts.

[Edited 2003-03-23 06:38:33]

User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 21411 times:

I wonder if the Air Force One birds don't have -400 systems in a -200 body. That doesn't really make much sense because the -400F has the short hump, but I wonder if they wanted the shorter hump for some specific reason? Because of course it has modern engines, just like a -400?

By the way, does anyone know if Air Force One is power by Pratt & Whitneys or GE (of course it just couldn't have been RR, lol)


User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 21382 times:

Boeing calls it a 747-200B, but it can only be classified as a VC-25A because it has been so heavily modified.

AF1 has plenty of protection from missiles. It has Disco balls above each engine (on the pylon) and under the APU. Other systems aren't as apparent from the outside so I don't know about them, but if it has IR protection one can be assured that it has radar. Also it is flown by the best pilots in the USAF.

Any attempt to attack AF1 would be suicide, one can only imagine even if AF1 turns down the escort, that they aren't at least following a bit behind, just in case. And the USAF is probally on call if need be.



At worst, you screw up and die.
User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 21350 times:

MD-90, they are CF6-80's, like the ones offered on the -400.

LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineAFC_ajax00 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 21386 times:

I beleive that the defense systems of AF1 have been discussed before on this forum, you might try a search!


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