Planespotterx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3283 times:
TV reports claim 2 AH-64's have come down over Iraq, and are in the enemys hands, one Apache is intact, showing that one probobally came down due to mechanical problems, what i dont get is, why didnt the pilots use the gun turrent or missiles to kill any iraqi troops that were closing in, could they have done this??
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13376 posts, RR: 77
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3230 times:
Clearly an Apache, close ups show the Hellfire missiles still in place.
Maybe a mechanical problem, as it looks very intact, I've only seen one chopper, possibly a second (if there was one) could have driven off or shot down?
If they see a bunch of vehicles and/or troops, sure they can engage, though if they were fighting to keep the chopper flying they may be otherwise occupied.
Bapilot2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 927 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3238 times:
I heard on the news the 2 Apaches that have been captured are the latest models, the type which the RAF are receiving. And that the RAF have them guarded 24 hours to stop anyone taking a peak at whats on board. If this is so, shouldnt the USAF blow the intact helicopter up to stop the iraqi's trying to use any technology found onboard?
Atenara From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3228 times:
just saw in CNN, a while ago, the Iraqi information minister has said that they have two apache helicopters and that they do not want to show pictures of the pilots, as the americans might accuse them of violating the geneva convention on POWS.
still kind of sketchy, but you can really see on the video of those hellfire missiles. and those iraqis cheering.
Racko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4887 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3187 times:
The video was probably recorded soon after the accident, and the chopper has by now been brought to a safe place. The Longbow is probably more capable than any aircraft the Iraqis. However, I doubt the Iraqis have anybody who could repair it or anybody who is able how to learn to fly it fast enough before the war is over.
LMP737 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 4722 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 month 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3112 times:
The Iraqis are not going to take it through Iran, the Russians would. Considering Russia-Iran defense ties the Iranians would be more than happy to let the Russians use their country as a transit point for such equipment.
FACT From South Africa, joined Jul 2002, 200 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 month 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3119 times:
A report I just read on the internet filed by a journalist who visited the helicopter crash site stated that it appeared intact except for signs of shots on its rear rotor. The tail number of helicopter is 95135 (i.e. 99-5135) ... as we can all tell from the photos, it is an AH-64D Longbow Apache. 99-5135 is one of a batch that are remanufactured AH-64As.
I'm also surprised that it hasn't yet been "taken out" by the USAF. I suppose the visuals on TV were the first indicaton of where it had come to ground. Seems like they need to have a few more of those Predator drones with their Hellfire missiles flying around ...
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