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Russian Government Buys 2 IL-96-300s & 2 A319ACJs  
User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1433 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5580 times:

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Russia will purchase two Airbus jets for its leadership in a deal worth $235 million with a European aircraft manufacturer despite promises to help its own struggling aeronautical industry.

The Russian government announced on Thursday it is buying two Airbus A319ACJs from EADS, headquartered in Toulouse, France, as well as building two Russian Ilyushin Il-96-300 airliners for President Dmitry Medvedev.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20110331/163303487.html

The A319ACJ deal is quite surprising with the current import restrictions on certain foreign aircraft types. Not really consistent policy, but from an aviation enthusiasts view it's great!   

  


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User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5300 times:

good choice for me, Makes sense.

Allthough 2 A319 and 2 IL96 seems alot of vip lol.


User currently onlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7827 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5203 times:

Don't the Russian govt already operate 2 VIP IL96's? Are these news one replacements or additions to the fleet?

User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5203 times:

A little bit unexpected - but quite reasonable.
I think it is a stupid policy to keep only Russian aircraft for government purpose.
Perhaps it might apply to some officials and particular missions (GLONASS instead of GPS and alternative "Internet" communication).
But for ordinary transportation of officials - it's quite alright.


User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5041 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 2):

Yes, but they also have some older stuff. I'm not sure how much is still in service but I've seen fairly recent images of Il-62s and Tu-154s in Russian government colors (some of them might be strictly military though.) Russian posters, please correct me if I'm wrong.


User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1433 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4995 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 2):
Don't the Russian govt already operate 2 VIP IL96's?

4   RA-96012, RA-96016, RA-96018, RA-96019

The two new ones will most likely be: RA-96020 and RA-96021 which have already been partly assembled.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 2):
Are these news one replacements or additions to the fleet?

Most likely additions as the oldest is built in 1995, the other 3 in 2003, 2007 and 2009.

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 4):
I'm not sure how much is still in service but I've seen fairly recent images of Il-62s and Tu-154s in Russian government colors

Yeah, everything from An's, Tu's, Il's, Yak's is still active for various officials. Foreign Minister Lavrov often uses the IL-62.



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User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4992 times:

You are right.
And apparently the time has come to let those great IL-62M go.
It is simply confusing that the only IL-62M flying are those owned by feds.
I am not sure about TU-154M though.


User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1433 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4952 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 6):
And apparently the time has come to let those great IL-62M go.
It is simply confusing that the only IL-62M flying are those owned by feds.

The 7 gov Il-62Ms are actually not so old as everyone thinks: built in 1984, 1986, 1987 (2x), 1988, 1992 (2x).

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 6):
I am not sure about TU-154M though.

Oldest Tu-154M is only from 1987, the youngest are from 2001, 2005, 2008.

Tu-214 fleet is very young, all 7 are built between 2002 and 2010 with deliveries going on for at least 6 more.

The Tu-134 fleet is older with the oldest frames well in their 30s and youngest is 27 years old. Same goes for the Yaks, they're built between 1976 and 1980. Let's not talk even about the Il-18s, they're 45 years old and still flying.



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User currently offlineFlyingSicilian From Italy, joined Mar 2009, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4755 times:

Will the planes be ready for Medvedev before his term is up in May of 2012?


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User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4733 times:

It appears Russia lags behind the other former Soviet republics in acquiring decadent western transportation for its officials.  
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Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 8):
Will the planes be ready for Medvedev before his term is up in May of 2012?

If they could pick up two foregone delivery slots for green frames now, there would be sufficient time for special equipment integration and testing, and interior outfitting. Question is whether the completion centers' cry of being heavily backlogged is real.

Russia seems to have developed a taste for French ships and planes of late.   



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User currently offlinetu204 From Russia, joined Mar 2006, 1255 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4682 times:

Just to clarify here, only IL9 96012 and 96016 are fit to transport the President. Aswell as one IL-62 which only transports the Foreign Minister (Lavrov) and one TU-214 (one more coming) as they have special communication equipment that is able to remain in contact with the Armed Forces plus the built in "nuclear suitcase" (which launches ICBMs should the need arise). The other IL9's plus the other IL6's plus the Tu-154's do not have those abilities. Another factor is that only 96012, 96016 and one of the IL6's have pure VIP configs (stateroom, conference room and a small "Y class" area for reporters/security in the back. The other IL9's (as far as I know) are for lesser state officials and are mostly a J class config though the aircraft. Also, I don't believe that they have anti-missile defences built in, but don't quote me on that.
The falcons were to replace the YAK40, the T214's the T154's and IL9's the IL6's. The Airbuses are probably to bridge the gap between the (fairly large) T214 and small Falcon.
P.S. From what I have heard, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov is a pilot license holder, so maybe he, like many of us here just enjoy flying the IL6, and does not bother asking to use one of the IL9's (which is almost as effecient for an aircraft twice the size).  Wink

[Edited 2011-03-31 21:02:42]


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User currently onlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7827 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4635 times:

Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 8):
Will the planes be ready for Medvedev before his term is up in May of 2012?

Any chance that he will run again, or will he step down in favor of Mr P?


User currently offlinetu204 From Russia, joined Mar 2006, 1255 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4517 times:

Very possible. Not sure if Putin will run.
If the two square off, Putin's got my vote.



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User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1433 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4497 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 11):
Any chance that he will run again, or will he step down in favor of Mr P?

There are currently four scenarios, in order of likeliness:
1) Medvedev goes for second term
2) Both will run
3) Putin alone goes for third term
4) They both don't run and will select an outsider.

Medvedev has over the past few years and months incredibly enlarged his power base and replaced key personnel with his own men.



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