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Grumman EA6B Aircraft At Amarc  
User currently offlinechuchoteur From France, joined Sep 2006, 763 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6291 times:

Following on from the discussion on a previous thread, I was checking out if any Grumman EA6B aircraft were being stored at AMARC.

The below link suggests that 5 aircraft are in storage:
6B.html" target="_blank">http://www.landair.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amarc/EA6B.html

I also noted that one had come into storage, and has since been returned to service.

Since the EA6B is essentially a subsonic aircraft, and given the fact that the 4 seater variant could prove to be quite practical, what would be the chances of these aircraft being eventually operated on the civilian register, once all the electronic jamming equipment has been removed?

Serial Type Arrival Date
159585 EA-6B 21-Jul-2009
158040 EA-6B 30-Sep-2009
158030 EA-6B 02-Oct-2009
163892 EA-6B 02-Nov-2009
162939 EA-6B 22-Mar-2011

Just wondering... and also what the process would be if they were eventually demilitarised.

Bearing in mind a useful 4-seater aircraft with good fuel burn (once all the heavy electronic jamming equipment has been removed), good short field performance (it was a carrier aircraft after all!) and good range could make a nice private jet... particularly with the side by side configuration.

Plus, the folding wings mean it doesn't take up as much hangar space either!
 

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User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6171 times:

Not only would I love to see a Prowler in civvy hands and flown at airshows, but I'd love to have one myself! It is a pretty unique configuration (4 place cockpit on a military jet) so it would make a great family jet, or good for taking the boys out to Vegas for a weekend  


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User currently offlinelegs From Australia, joined Jun 2006, 239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 5998 times:

How will the noisy old J-52 turbojet deal with noise restrictions? Or do warbirds get an exemption?

User currently offlinechuchoteur From France, joined Sep 2006, 763 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5975 times:

Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 1):
Not only would I love to see a Prowler in civvy hands and flown at airshows, but I'd love to have one myself! It is a pretty unique configuration (4 place cockpit on a military jet) so it would make a great family jet, or good for taking the boys out to Vegas for a weekend

My thoughts exactly!

Plus once you've taken out all the ECM equipment, the rest can't be that classified... so in theory it should be quite possible to eventually get one?

With the F18 Growler coming online, I'm wondering how long the EA6B will be in service. Even though it got a service life extension (I believe)... not that this has prevented former military aircraft being owned/operated by private individuals whilst it was still an in-service aircraft (cf the Harrier that came onto the private register last year).

Slap drop tanks on the inner hardpoints, and convert the outer drop tanks as luggage racks and you're off!

Quoting legs (Reply 2):
How will the noisy old J-52 turbojet deal with noise restrictions? Or do warbirds get an exemption?

I do believe they are exempt due to their "experimental" status.
You may however have to comply with a night curfew if applicable...


User currently offlinechuchoteur From France, joined Sep 2006, 763 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5778 times:

... btw does anybody have first hand experience on the EA6B?

I'm just curious to know if the integrated boarding steps are mechanical or actuated, i.e. do you have to hang over the side to release them if you are in the aircraft, or are they systematically handled by ground crew?

(in simple terms, can you get out on your own without punching a hole in the canopy!)


User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2914 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5758 times:

Usually the Navy doesn't sell their old aircraft though. They go so far as to lay claim on all the wrecks being pulled up from Lake Michigan...

The Saab 105 was converted as a 4-seater exec transport, you may be better off getting one from Sweden or Austria.



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User currently offlinetrigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5721 times:

Is anybody able to get aircraft from AMARC anymore? I thought they cut off sales of whole aircraft a while back with only cut-up scrap or parts sold.

User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5709 times:

Quoting chuchoteur (Reply 4):
I'm just curious to know if the integrated boarding steps are mechanical or actuated, i.e. do you have to hang over the side to release them if you are in the aircraft, or are they systematically handled by ground crew?


All boarding ladders on USN carrier aircraft are opened and closed by ground crew.

Quoting chuchoteur (Reply 3):
I do believe they are exempt due to their "experimental" status.
You may however have to comply with a night curfew if applicable...


If you took off in one of those at night you would definitely get a lot complaints from the neighbors. Come to think of it you would probably get complaints in the daytime. On the cats when they went to mil it would be so loud it would hurt your ears. Even with ear plugs and the Mikey Mouse ears on.


User currently offlinetitanmiller From United States of America, joined May 2006, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5649 times:

Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 1):
I'd love to have one myself! It is a pretty unique configuration (4 place cockpit on a military jet) so it would make a great family jet, or good for taking the boys out to Vegas for a weekend

I've long held this thought myself. The E/A-6B would make a great private aircraft to quickly haul around some people.


User currently offlinechuchoteur From France, joined Sep 2006, 763 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5548 times:

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 5):
The Saab 105 was converted as a 4-seater exec transport, you may be better off getting one from Sweden or Austria.

... not the same size, range or performance... the EA6B Prowler is a true 4 seater in terms of space behind, and visibility from that second row of seats...  
It's also a muuuch bigger aircraft!


User currently offlinechuchoteur From France, joined Sep 2006, 763 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5032 times:

... actually, plenty of S2 Vikings at AMARC... and those are 4 seater as well?
Seems strange that you have to load the rear seats if they are unoccupied... no deactivation on them?


User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1532 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4907 times:

Quoting legs (Reply 2):

How will the noisy old J-52 turbojet deal with noise restrictions? Or do warbirds get an exemption?

Here in the US, there are very few airports that have any noise restrictions at all. Personally, I don't think it would be that big of deal to operate one here in that regard. Buying the plane and making it airworthy would be the hardest part, IMO.

-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlinechuchoteur From France, joined Sep 2006, 763 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4893 times:

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 11):
Reply 11, posted Tue Apr 26 2011 18:16:01 your local time (20 minutes 50 secs ago) and read 11 times:


Quoting legs (Reply 2):

How will the noisy old J-52 turbojet deal with noise restrictions? Or do warbirds get an exemption?

Here in the US, there are very few airports that have any noise restrictions at all. Personally, I don't think it would be that big of deal to operate one here in that regard. Buying the plane and making it airworthy would be the hardest part, IMO.

-DiamondFlyer

... I saw some FAA regulation a while back that stated that warbirds were meant to be stage 2 compliant?
Not sure if it was a definite, or a suggested amendment. Seems that the EAA managed to negociate an acceptable "middle ground" if I recall correctly.


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