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Looking For Info On The Boeing Skyfox  
User currently offlineWingscrubber From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 850 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 5 months 6 days ago) and read 10757 times:

I was wondering if the collective expertise had any knowledge of the Boeing Skyfox program.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Skyfox



I'm rather fascinated by the concept of the 'conversion kit' that the former lockheed engineers who formed 'Skyfox Corp' came up with. According to the only info I can find, the concept was to re-engine and heavily modify existing Lockheed T-33 airframes into a rather sexy jet trainer/ground attack aircraft - to me it looks sort of like an Me262 with tail-mounted engines.

The business model was based on the fact that surplus T-33s were (and maybe still are) quite plentiful, and that by heavily modifying the existing T-33 airframe it was possible to engineer an essentially all-new airplane without having to design and build one from scratch, allowing a capable trainer to be built for half the cost of a new equivalent.

Boeing was impressed with the idea enough to buy the rights to the program, and there was interest from the Portugese and US airforce, but the program seemed to fizzle out... So this is another airplane to put in the book of 'could have been awesome' failed projects.

If anybody out there has any additional info about what went on with the Skyfox program I'd love to hear your stories, but also what other surplus airframes could benefit from a modification kit like what was done with Skyfox?


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User currently offline328JET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10652 times:

Hey, never heard about that airplane.

And i really like it!


Any more details from somebody?

 


User currently offlineTripleDelta From Croatia, joined Jul 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10415 times:
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There are a few photos of it in the db:

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Photo © Darrell Crosby
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Photo © Darrell Crosby


Looks like a cross between a Blackbird and an A-10  (and by that I mean it looks great, but IMHO civilian colors suit it better).



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User currently offlinejwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 10305 times:

Project was shut down because of lack of customers.
Turboprops like the Tucano and PC7/9 are cheaper and do the same job.



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User currently offlinegarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5399 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 10301 times:

Quoting TripleDelta (Reply 2):
ooks like a cross between a Blackbird and an A-10 (and by that I mean it looks great, but IMHO civilian colors suit it better).

For some reason it reminds me of a cross between an Me-262 and an A-10, especially in that second picture you have there.



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User currently offlineWingscrubber From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 850 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 10264 times:

A light twin-jet such as this could have made a great COIN aircraft, although with a MTOW of 20,000lb, less than half of an A-10, it probably would have been limited to light guns and rockets.

But then, there are air forces who would put such as aircraft to great effect, could have been a great value export-aircraft, I puzzle at 'lack of customers'... the IA63 Pampa, Dassault Alphajet and AMX were all coming into service at or after the time this was developed, all in a similar weight and performance category, but all would have been more expensive than the Skyfox, but it wasn't to be...



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User currently offlinespudh From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 301 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 10237 times:

Thats a good looking airplane.

It's one hell of a conversion, with the raised tail I'm really struggling to see any hint of the T-33, even the stance of it is different, as if they've lengthened the front undercarriage too.


User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4853 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10204 times:

Quoting Wingscrubber (Thread starter):

The business model was based on the fact that surplus T-33s were (and maybe still are) quite plentiful, and that by heavily modifying the existing T-33 airframe it was possible to engineer an essentially all-new airplane without having to design and build one from scratch,

The business case might have been a lot better now, with plenty of competitors proposing clean-sheet business jets, but falling along the wayside after investors lose interest. It would have made an awesome owner-pilot ride!



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 9354 times:

The aircraft did a cameo on an episode of "Airwolf"

It was supposed to be some new fancy air force fighter and the pilot was suffering from the manchurian canidate syndrome from nam was going to steal it and give it the soviets.

Needless to say String and Dominic prevented that from happening.



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User currently offlinetrigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 9313 times:

Before:


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Photo © Steve Williams




After:


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Photo © Darrell Crosby




Believe it or not this is the same aircraft. I wonder if there is a single part on the aircraft that was NOT modified.

Mod edit: Please use the thumbnail feature for posting photos from the database instead of the IMG code.

[Edited 2011-05-07 07:40:54 by srbmod]

User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3775 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9062 times:

That thing looked like a good candidate for chronic tailstrikes...


Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
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