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Airbus C295 AEW  
User currently offline328JET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7553 times:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...lifts-veil-on-c-295-aew-study.html


Airbus is studying an AEW version of the C295 and already flight-tested a dummy rotodome. (see picture 1)

Also winglets are under study, which look really impressive on the C295. (see picture 2)


The rotodome design could also used for future A319 and A320 AEW versions.

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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7394 times:

Winglets would mask some areas to the radar. That is why the Wedgetail doesn't have them.

Quoting 328JET (Thread starter):
The rotodome design could also used for future A319 and A320 AEW versions.

The 'rotodome' concept is old and heavy technology, which is why Boeing and NG went with the 'tophat' system and the new IAF G-550 AWACS is not using the rotodome system.

The AEW market is currently flooded with different designs from the E-767 to the Saab designs, only yhtr B-707/E-3 models are no longer offered. Producing an A-319/-320-/C-295-AEW will only make the market more crowded with different airplanes and a relitively small market of about 120 airplanes, worldwide. Most of those airplanes are already flying Boeing models


User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4853 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7322 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):

The 'rotodome' concept is old and heavy technology, which is why Boeing and NG went with the 'tophat' system and the new IAF G-550 AWACS is not using the rotodome system.

And yet NG and the US Navy have seen it fit to move farther out into the future with the very same configuration.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...look-pretty-but-packs-big-new.html

http://www.as.northropgrumman.com/pr...eye/assets/E-2D_Cutaway_Poster.pdf



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31060 posts, RR: 87
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7192 times:
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Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 2):
And yet NG and the US Navy have seen it fit to move farther out into the future with the very same configuration.....

I imagine because that is an update of an existing platform that already uses a rotodome.  


User currently offline328JET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 7069 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):
The 'rotodome' concept is old and heavy technology

It is a study by Airbus, so maybe it is not the latest configuration.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6770 times:

Quoting 328JET (Reply 4):
It is a study by Airbus, so maybe it is not the latest configuration.

I hope EADS takes into consideration just how many AEW systems are currently offered, and what percentage of this small market they plan to capture.


User currently offlinechuchoteur From France, joined Sep 2006, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6761 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
I hope EADS takes into consideration just how many AEW systems are currently offered, and what percentage of this small market they plan to capture

... all depends on the development costs, and if one or two customers are ok to cover them... well why not.
It's much like the A319 maritime patrol aircraft, the design study didn't cost a lot to do, and they can quite happily wait for a customer to come up...


User currently offline328JET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6508 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
I hope EADS takes into consideration just how many AEW systems are currently offered, and what percentage of this small market they plan to capture

That is the same situation at all fighter contests in the moment:

F16, F15, F18, JSF, Gripen NG, Rafale, Typhoon and the russian fighters...

Every supplier gets a relative small percentage, but none of them would not offer...


User currently offline328JET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5678 times:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...o-provide-aew-radar-for-c-295.html


Some further updates from Paris.


 


User currently offlinenicoeddf From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1099 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5551 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
I hope EADS takes into consideration just how many AEW systems are currently offered, and what percentage of this small market they plan to capture.

Yeah, thats how business evolve and earn money. Just let the others have what they historically had. Don't improve to win market share with new products.

Thats exactly why Emirates failed so miserably. They tried hard to gain marketshare and improve service and network. But as we all see, they failed because the market is so small und already occupied...

...or not?!


User currently offlinegreaser From Bahamas, joined Jan 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5468 times:

What advantage does the C295 platform have over the G550, 737, or E-2?


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User currently offline328JET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5344 times:

Quoting greaser (Reply 10):
What advantage does the C295 platform have over the G550, 737, or E-2?

It is a much cheaper platform and will fulfill most requirements as well.

http://www.airbusmilitary.com/Surveillance/FITS.aspx


Also the C295AEW it could be operated in a mixed fleet consisting of the following types very cheap:

CN235 transporter
CN325MPA
C295 transporter
C295 AEW
C295MPA

I hope my country takes a look at it.


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