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First KC-30 On Its Way To Australia  
User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9210 posts, RR: 76
Posted (3 years 6 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 7310 times:

The first KC-30 for the RAAF left Madrid today at 10am on its way to Australia.

Those of you near McCarran AFB and Hickam AFB will be able to see the KC-30 on its delivery flight.

It is due to land at RAAF Amberley on May 30 where it will be formally handed over.


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User currently offlineaklrno From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 973 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7175 times:

Do you mean Nellis AFB or McCarran airport (LAS)?

User currently offlinearniepie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7159 times:

I'm surprised it needs 2 stops to get from Europe to Australia, even a normal A332 without payload and full tanks can get
from Toulouse to anywhere in australia without having to stop, I even seem to remember that one of the first delivery flights for QF's 332's was a direct flight with over 10500NM actual trip length. (set some records to IIRC).

Strange that they decide on doing it this way with a tanker aircraft of all possible planes.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7075 times:

That airbus is going the other way around arnie........this one is going via Vegas and the Hawaii


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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5724 posts, RR: 44
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7023 times:
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That KC-30 is going to spend considerabale part of it's life dragging Hornets. Rhinos and one day Lightnings to various 'Flag exercises at Nellis, it is perhaps appropriate they drop in and say hi!

And show me a crew that ever tried to minimise the number of Officer clubs/messes they could drop into!!

Oh.. and when did showing off your bright shiny new toy to your buddies not count??

Cheers



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12173 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6946 times:

Will the KC-30 be accepted into the RAAF fleet upon arrival, or wait a few months for acceptance (for maintenaces and crew training) like the Wedgetail was?

User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6939 times:

Rhino's, wedgetails, and Tankers. Sounds like the RAAF has totally recapitalized their whole Air Force. What is the disposition of their old 707's? If still flyable I'm sure Omega would be interested.


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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5724 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6907 times:
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Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 6):
What is the disposition of their old 707's? If still flyable I'm sure Omega would be interested.

The last two flying examples were retired 2008 and I beleive in open storage at RAAF Richmond, not sure there is much left on those old bones for Omega to pick over.

Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 6):
Rhino's, wedgetails, and Tankers. Sounds like the RAAF has totally recapitalized their whole Air Force

+C-17s when ever the chance crops up and 80 odd new helos for the army and navy.... MilAv in Oz is on something of a roll.... +100(perhaps,, a big perhaps!!) F-35 someday!!



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User currently offlinelegs From Australia, joined Jun 2006, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6792 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
Will the KC-30 be accepted into the RAAF fleet upon arrival, or wait a few months for acceptance (for maintenaces and crew training) like the Wedgetail was?

I'd guess towards a pretty quick turn-around once the KC-30 lands. A lot of the squadron personnel have been posted there for quite a while with nothing to do but prepare for the arrival. So, barring any mechanical issues with the acceptance, my guess is 33 Sqn will want to start flying them pretty quickly. I could well be wrong though, this is just a guess.


User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5724 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6699 times:
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Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
Will the KC-30 be accepted into the RAAF fleet upon arrival

I would expect they will be put to work fairly quickly, the RAAF has budgeted for 2160 hours this year for the fleet, so the first couple will be busy I would think.
What I don't know is the status of the follow on aircraft being convrted here in Oz.



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User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 15 hours ago) and read 6364 times:

To follow up on this delivery thread:

Quote:

Australia accepts first KC-30A tanker

Australia formally accepted its first of five KC-30A tankers on 1 June, beginning the restoration of an in-flight refuelling capability that has lain dormant since the retirement of its last Boeing 707 tanker three years ago.

Read more here: http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...a-accepts-first-kc-30a-tanker.html

Congratulations to Airbus military and Australia. With the new Hornets, C-17 and F-35 in a decade the Australia Army is very interesting to follow  



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User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4880 posts, RR: 37
Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 5 hours ago) and read 6231 times:

Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 6):
disposition of their old 707's? If still flyable I'm sure Omega would be interested.

Omega was intended to get them, but I heard that they couldn't go through with it, hence why they are still there.

Someone else even suggested that it was possible the things might be reactivated again and pressed into service. I don't know how truthful that is, except that the source was I believe from the Air Force - but not directly involved with 33SQN as far as I know, so who knows..


User currently offlinevheca From Australia, joined May 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 3 hours ago) and read 6179 times:

Usually new aircraft get to have a bit of a 'familiarisation' flight to all the bases around the country. I was at RAAF East Sale when the C-17 did her pass, anyone got an idea for the KC-30?

Cheers

Vheca



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User currently offlinelegs From Australia, joined Jun 2006, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6139 times:

Quoting oykie (Reply 10):
Australia Army

There's a few thousand Royal Australian Air Force members that would like to argue that point   The Australian Army only flies helicopters (Blackhawks, Chinooks, Kiowas and MRH 90s and Tigers are rolling into service).

Quoting cpd (Reply 11):
reactivated again and pressed into service

Anythings possible. I'd rate it highly unlikely though, the 707's were up for a major service, and I believe they got cannabalised a fair bit. And I'm almost certain the RAAF has no intention of spinning the old girls up again, they dont have any crews or maintainers anymore.


User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6123 times:

Quoting legs (Reply 13):
There's a few thousand Royal Australian Air Force members that would like to argue that point

Haha! I can imagine that   I have a tendancy to mix the term military and army.I know the difference, but it does not help  Anyway It will be interesting to follow all the exciting things that are happening to the Royal Australian Air Force  



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5724 posts, RR: 44
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6038 times:
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Quoting legs (Reply 13):
MRH 90s and Tigers are rolling into service

Reportedly with some teething troubles but are certainly part of a major renewal of ADF aviation assets and the RAN soon to decide on which direction it will take for a new ASW helo.

The Army was apparently also about to buy some more Chinooks, that requirement has taken on new urgency with one now writtten off in Afghanistan, sadly with the loss of a crewmember.

cheers



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User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9210 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 5143 times:

Second A330MRTT is now with the RAAF

"Airbus Military today delivered Australia’s second A330 Multi Role Tanker Transport (MRTT), less than one month after handover of its initial aircraft – which was received for operation by the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) on 1 June. Designated the KC-30A in RAAF service, the country’s newest A330 MRTT was converted by Qantas Defence Services in Brisbane, Australia. The third aircraft currently is undergoing its conversion process in Brisbane, with delivery scheduled for later this year. "

http://www.airbus.com/no_cache/newse...-a330-multi-role-tanker-transport/



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12173 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4916 times:

Zeke, do we know which KC-30s have been delivered to the RAAF? I think #1 and #2 (EADS modified tankers) is still being reworked to remove test equipment and add upgrades. So are these deliveries actuall airplanes #3 and #4, with #5 delivered later this year? Aren't these 3 KC-30s all the airplanes modified by QF?

User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9210 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4642 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 17):
Zeke, do we know which KC-30s have been delivered to the RAAF?

#1 - A39-003
#2 - A39-002

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 17):
I think #1 and #2 (EADS modified tankers) is still being reworked to remove test equipment and add upgrades.

A39-001 went to Iberia to get its test equipment removed, is still being used for flight testing, it should be going to the RAAF after August when the Australian military type certificate work has finished.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 17):
So are these deliveries actuall airplanes #3 and #4, with #5 delivered later this year?

#5 bare A330 arrived at Qantas in May this year for it conversion. A39-001 and A39-004 will be delivered this year, A39-005 next year.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 17):
Aren't these 3 KC-30s all the airplanes modified by QF?

All 5 aircraft were modified by Qantas (booms etc were installed by Qantas.). The painting and finishing was done in Spain.



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User currently offlineVHECA From Australia, joined May 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4441 times:

And still no idea when we will get to see them at other bases? Oh well, just have to keep an ear out, then!

  

Vheca



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12173 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4362 times:

Quoting zeke (Reply 18):
zeke

Thanks, Zeke. So a total of 4 KC-30s to be delivered this year, and the last one sometime next year.


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