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User currently offlineAirimages From Switzerland, joined Feb 2005, 118 posts, RR: 4
Posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10681 times:
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Hi all,

Does somebody know if "Top Gun" still exists and if yes, what aircraft do they fly today? Where are they located?

Thank you for your answers.

Cheers,

Jerome

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User currently offlineeksath From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1317 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10664 times:
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Quoting Airimages (Thread starter):
Does somebody know if "Top Gun" still exists and if yes, what aircraft do they fly today? Where are they located?

yes. It is combined with another squadron. More info:

http://www.cnic.navy.mil/Fallon/Abou...andAirWarfareCenterNSAWC/index.htm

at NAS Miramar

F-16,F/A-18, T-38...and others...



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User currently offlineulfinator From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10606 times:

Quoting eksath (Reply 1):
at NAS Miramar

Maybe I am mistaken but NAS Miramar was BRAC'd and they are now at NAS Fallon.


User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5770 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10519 times:

Quoting ulfinator (Reply 2):
NAS Miramar was BRAC'd

Correct, there is no more "NAS Miramar", however it was not BRAC'd for closure, it was realigned and is now "MCAS Miramar". (Seems all those senior commanders really like being stationed out here just before they retire   )

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User currently offlinemechatnew From United States of America, joined May 2005, 103 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10402 times:

NSAWC flies the F-16A/B, F/A-18A/B/C/D/F, E-2C, and M/HH-60. There is another unit, VFC-13 that flies the F-5F/N at NAS Fallon.

User currently offlineAirimages From Switzerland, joined Feb 2005, 118 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10034 times:
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Thanks for your answer!

Jerome


User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7833 times:

Here's an old, very distinctive F-5E in black airshow scheme out of NAS Fallon.....

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Caption on the latest photo on the right says it's now part of a private collection. Wonder if they reapplied the stunning black adversary livery?



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User currently offlineNBGSkyGod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7548 times:

Miramar went to the Marines as a compromise for the closure of MCAS El Toro and Tustin, most of those units went to Miramar. The Navy went to Fallon.


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User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1665 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7199 times:

Is the "Fightertown USA" hangar still at Miramar?

Marc


User currently offlineNBGSkyGod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 20 hours ago) and read 6873 times:

The Hangar is there, but it no longer says Fightertown USA on it.


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User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1665 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6649 times:

Quoting NBGSkyGod (Reply 9):
The Hangar is there, but it no longer says Fightertown USA on it.

That's sad. It should have been declared a landmark!

What about something I vaguely remember hearing several years ago about a restaurant (probably in the Miramar area) that is filled with memorablia and props from the movie?

Marc


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6549 times:

Quoting NBGSkyGod (Reply 7):
Miramar went to the Marines as a compromise for the closure of MCAS El Toro and Tustin, most of those units went to Miramar. The Navy went to Fallon.

Just shows what a bizzaro world the decisions making in DC can be. They should have closed NAS Miramar and handed it over to the city of San Diego and have them do with it as they pleased. This coming from someone who was stationed there and has many fond memories of the place.


User currently offlineStudeDave From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6458 times:

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 10):
What about something I vaguely remember hearing several years ago about a restaurant (probably in the Miramar area) that is filled with memorablia and props from the movie?

If you mean the Kansas City Bar and Grille in downtown San Diego- they had a fire about three years ago~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOa78OF4fd4

Last I heard was that it would be re-built, and that they were looking for more items to have on display.
But they appear to be back open~ http://www.kcbbq.net/

[Edited 2011-10-22 18:02:56 by studedave]


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User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6210 times:

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 10):
What about something I vaguely remember hearing several years ago about a restaurant (probably in the Miramar area) that is filled with memorablia and props from the movie?

On occasion I'll watch the movie just for the entertainment value of seeing all the errors in it.


User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3494 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6149 times:

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 11):
Just shows what a bizzaro world the decisions making in DC can be. They should have closed NKX / KNKX), USA - California AND Mountain View - Moffett Federal Airfield (NAS) (NUQ / KNUQ), USA - California AND Nassau - Lynden Pindling International (Windsor Field) (NAS / MYNN), Bahamas">NAS Miramar and handed it over to the city of San Diego and have them do with it as they pleased. This coming from someone who was stationed there and has many fond memories of the place.

Bizzaro political non-decisions reign supreme here in San Diego as well. Especially concerning the future commercial air operations/airport(s). NKX was simply "closed" for more than a year as the DOD gave the city time to consider an offer: $1 cash and you get ALL the land and the air navigation rights (read: no noise litigation) that come with NKX. Not surprising, local politicians couldn't make a decision --they started another "study" AFTER the year deadline expired-- so by the time they decided they wanted to have "serious discussions" with DOD on the future of NKX, the DOD had already made their decision.... USMC was being kicked out of Tustin & El Toro and the BRAC proposal to move all of their ops to MCAS Yuma was simply not operationally feasible so.... USMC had already begun the move to the then vacant NKX.

Not to worry though. The politicians made sure they killed the Fightertown spirit long before they got around to deciding to kill the base itself.   



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User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4778 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6102 times:

Some of those earlier Top Gun Pilots may be flying rubber dog sh*t out of Hong Kong by now..


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User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2124 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5935 times:

Quoting AAR90 (Reply 14):
NKX was simply "closed" for more than a year as the DOD gave the city time to consider an offer: $1 cash and you get ALL the land and the air navigation rights (read: no noise litigation) that come with NKX. Not surprising, local politicians couldn't make a decision --they started another "study" AFTER the year deadline expired--

If that's accurate, and I trust you that it is, that is amazing shortsightedness on the part of the politicians. For less than a cup of Joe you could've got an airport, the land and all that noise litigation free? Unbelievable.



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User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3494 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5863 times:

Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 16):
If that's accurate, and I trust you that it is, that is amazing shortsightedness on the part of the politicians. For less than a cup of Joe you could've got an airport, the land and all that noise litigation free? Unbelievable.

One has to remember that the NAS Miramar option was just one of many wasted opportunities in the 50+ year history of San Diego politicians (all of them) continually "studying" the issue, but never making an actual decision. Hence, after 50+ years we still have the single-runway Lindbergh Field as San Diego's "major" civilian airport.   



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User currently offlinetugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5770 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5846 times:

Quoting HaveBlue (Reply 16):
If that's accurate, and I trust you that it is, that is amazing shortsightedness on the part of the politicians. For less than a cup of Joe you could've got an airport, the land and all that noise litigation free? Unbelievable.

What's being said is not quite accurate.

The base was closed and offered to the city for $1 back in 1954, not during the recent BRAC's. Of the recent BRAC's none recommended relinquishing the base though there were various groups that lobbied the commission for and against the idea as the BRAC commission considered which bases to close or realign.

While it may seem crazy that the city turned down the base in 1954, back then it was just too remote and Lindbergh Field was doing fine. San Diego was basically thought of as a sleepy little town back then and everyone lived fairly close to the city center. Miramar was over ten miles away and in between was Montgomery Field which was already a working local airport that the city had just acquired in 1948 (potentially to replace Lindbergh). Sure with 20/20 hindsight it was very shortsighted to not accept the offer but no one knew that a city that wasn't even in the top twenty of big cities in the USA would grow into the top ten within 30 years.

Tugg



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User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3494 posts, RR: 46
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5774 times:

Quoting tugger (Reply 18):
What's being said is not quite accurate.

The base was closed and offered to the city for $1 back in 1954, not during the recent BRAC's.

In 1954, it was a formal offer "on paper." There were two other "unofficial offers" prior to the BRAC closing. After the BRAC closure announcement but prior to USN actually closing the base, DOD (not USN) offered the property to the City of San Diego. Informally asking if the city was still "not interested" in acquiring the property and if the city was interested, the $1 offer was still "on the table."

Sources: NAS Miramar staff members who participated in two meetings with the Mayor's office on this subject alone.



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