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Boeing's New Air Dominance Fighter Concept  
User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4696 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11223 times:

The Dew Line has just come out with two videos of Boeing's new conceptual air dominance fighter.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/th...ideos-a-slightly-fuzzy-look-i.html

The PAK-FA and J-20 may now have a new adversary to plan for. Guess the snoops would be quite busy in the years ahead figuring out how to reverse engineer the thing!      

However, the biggest hurdle would be where the funding is going to come from this time...         

[Edited 2011-06-07 13:30:01]


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User currently offlineoldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2027 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11207 times:

Does anyone think that the US has any money to buy a new fighter? They even don't know, how to pay the bills for the F-35.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ar-mark-for-maintenance-bills.html

[Edited 2011-06-07 13:15:37]


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24361 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 11106 times:

Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 1):
Does anyone think that the US has any money to buy a new fighter?

The show must go on. There certainly is the need for other models beyond the F-35 in capability.

Manufacturers are talking about stuff with development and production cycles 10-30 years out.



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User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2013 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 11061 times:

The presentation seems to highlight the ability to do development work that encompass initial configuration evaluation all the way through tooling and rate production. The tools allow them to provide better estimates on design and costs. The fighter shown looks like just a straw horse that have been run through the exercise. Whether the final article is a next generation fighter, bomber or UAV, the program/process shown would allow the "customer" have a better feel that Boeing is providing a more accurate cost estimate/bid . . . hint . . . hint . . .

bikerthai



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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10991 times:

Sensor and processing technology keep improving so very soon a pilot could have very good SA without actually being in the cockpit, so it's not unreasonable to assume that a true unmanned fighter is next. The potential ability to pull 100 Gs is just too tempting.


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User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2013 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 10645 times:

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 4):
The potential ability to pull 100 Gs is just too tempting.

Of course, while you are at it, why would you need planes that can do massive G's when you can design a weapons system (AKA Lasers and missiles) with 360 degrees coverage? But that debate is for another day.  

bikerthai



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4696 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10155 times:

Quoting bikerthai (Reply 3):
The fighter shown looks like just a straw horse that have been run through the exercise.

Not to be outdone, the Chinese came out with a peep of their own.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/th...icture-sneak-peek-of-new-chin.html

It appears the old propaganda machine is alive, well-oiled and working. Although in fairness, it has been churning out real, verifiable flying prototypes of late. It's the aircraft's innards that remain a mystery.



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User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9921 times:

Boeing's only hope to stay alive in the fighter jet business (carry on McDD's strong reputation,) is to design for the US Navy a true replacement for the Super Hornet, which is in fact, never been a true replacement for the F-14D Tomcat. The USN needs something along the lines of the F-22 that the USAF enjoys, minus the low numbers and exorbitant price tag. If Boeing can provide the vision and design, then they might, just might preserve their ability to build and sell combat jets after the F-15 and F-18 are done.

User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9873 times:

Lockheed (and their partners Boeing and General Dynamics) won the contract to build the F-22 in April 1991 and even though the Defence Department has cut the number required time and time again it is still in production. If Boeing was to actually build the F-22 replacement (or supplement) it would not be off the drawing board many years with an in service date some time after 2030.

User currently offlinewvsuperhornet From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9365 times:

You sure thats a fighter concept and not the concept for the new bomber program set to start in 2015?

User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4696 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7444 times:

Well, here's a slightly clearer presentation (just) .....

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/th...icture-one-afrl-briefing-lots.html



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15502 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7414 times:

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 7):
which is in fact, never been a true replacement for the F-14D Tomcat.

It could have been, but the fact that it isn't can be laid squarely at the feet of Dick Cheney.

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 7):
The USN needs something along the lines of the F-22 that the USAF enjoys,

They could have had it, but they cancelled it. There is a pattern here. The Navy and Cheney screwed up and now the Navy gets to pay the price for their shortsightedness.



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