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Iran Shoots Down US UAV Over Nuclear Plan  
User currently offlinebjornstrom From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 329 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6220 times:

Iran has shot down an unmanned U.S. spy plane over its Fordu nuclear site, a state-run website reported on Wednesday, a day after it confirmed it was installing a new generation of advanced uranium enrichment centrifuges.

Sounds pretty far off - do you believe the reports?

Link below:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ts-down-unmanned-US-spy-plane.html


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User currently offlineBladeLWS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6131 times:

When they show us the wreckage of a Predator then I'll believe it. We have much more survivable assets in use to watch Iran than sending a slow flying target like that into an area covered by air defenses.

User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2923 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6121 times:

They've claimed to shoot down US drones over the gulf for two years now, however no shred of evidence has ever been presented. I will doubt their claims till evidence is presented, or at least rack it up there with their Super Plasma Stealth Hovercraft Submarines (TM).


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User currently offlinesilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2081 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5891 times:

It's not that hard to believe. You're talking about a relatively slow moving target and the government has a lot of them up in the air,

User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5616 times:

From the article

"The Pentagon denied that report but acknowledged some spy planes had crashed in the past due to mechanical failure."

Maybe it's not a US drone, but an Israeli drone.  

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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13555 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5319 times:
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Quoting silentbob (Reply 3):
It's not that hard to believe. You're talking about a relatively slow moving target and the government has a lot of them up in the air,

So...where are the photos? Without photographic evidence, it's EXTREMELY hard to believe from Iran, since they'd be the first ones to parade the wreckage around for all the world to see if they'd really taken one down.



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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2923 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5206 times:

Quoting silentbob (Reply 3):
It's not that hard to believe. You're talking about a relatively slow moving target and the government has a lot of them up in the air,

Oh, technicallly it's possible, I agree with you there. I'm just calling Bullshit on this spokesperson's claim. They've repeatedly claimed similar shoot downs in the past and nothing was ever shown either. Surprised it's still a military drone according to them and hasn't morphed into CIA/MI6/Mossad equipment yet.



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User currently offlinekeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5151 times:

You deny every loss until proven otherwise.

You can also say "missing" iso "shot down by the enemy" or say there was a technical issue.

The truth is expendable is these cases, managing perceptions is all.


User currently offlineGST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 930 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5112 times:

Quoting keesje (Reply 7):
or say there was a technical issue.
Quoting keesje (Reply 7):

The truth is expendable is these cases

Shrapnel and bullets are pretty sure causes of technical issues, so in this scenario the quasi truth is maintained  


User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5037 times:

Quoting GST (Reply 8):
Shrapnel and bullets are pretty sure causes of technical issues,

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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12138 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4972 times:

Why would the US use a Preditor so far inland in Iran? We have much better platforms like Global Hawk (FL-650+), or even the U-2R/S (FL-700+). That is not even counting the many US space based systems.

User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4907 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):
Why would the US use a Preditor so far inland in Iran? We have much better platforms like Global Hawk (FL-650+), or even the U-2R/S (FL-700+). That is not even counting the many US space based systems.

My thoughts exactly. Why risk the propaganda coup?



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User currently offlinekalvado From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4884 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):


Why would the US use a Preditor so far inland in Iran? We have much better platforms like Global Hawk (FL-650+), or even the U-2R/S (FL-700+). That is not even counting the many US space based systems.

Photography is not the only way to collect information. For example, drone could do air sampling - something you cannot do at FL650 or from the orbit. Or measuring radiation levels. Or doing x-ray and gamma-ray spectroscopy.
I would expect those things can tell much more than simple imaging, and all that needs to be done in vicinity of operating site.


User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4384 times:

Quoting kalvado (Reply 12):

Nice input. In that case the drones may have been operated by the IAEA.   

bikerthai



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