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Iran Shoots Down US UAV Over Nuclear Plan

bjornstrom From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 327 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5163 times:

Iran has shot down an unmanned U.S. spy plane over its Fordu nuclear site, a state-run website reported on Wednesday, a day after it confirmed it was installing a new generation of advanced uranium enrichment centrifuges.

Sounds pretty far off - do you believe the reports?

Link below:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ts-down-unmanned-US-spy-plane.html

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BladeLWS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 386 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5074 times:

When they show us the wreckage of a Predator then I'll believe it. We have much more survivable assets in use to watch Iran than sending a slow flying target like that into an area covered by air defenses.

Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2736 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5064 times:

They've claimed to shoot down US drones over the gulf for two years now, however no shred of evidence has ever been presented. I will doubt their claims till evidence is presented, or at least rack it up there with their Super Plasma Stealth Hovercraft Submarines (TM).

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silentbob From Vatican City, joined Aug 2006, 1639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4834 times:

It's not that hard to believe. You're talking about a relatively slow moving target and the government has a lot of them up in the air,

bikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1591 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4559 times:

From the article

"The Pentagon denied that report but acknowledged some spy planes had crashed in the past due to mechanical failure."

Maybe it's not a US drone, but an Israeli drone.

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EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12559 posts, RR: 64
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4262 times:

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Quoting silentbob (Reply 3):
It's not that hard to believe. You're talking about a relatively slow moving target and the government has a lot of them up in the air,

So...where are the photos? Without photographic evidence, it's EXTREMELY hard to believe from Iran, since they'd be the first ones to parade the wreckage around for all the world to see if they'd really taken one down.

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Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2736 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4149 times:

Quoting silentbob (Reply 3):
It's not that hard to believe. You're talking about a relatively slow moving target and the government has a lot of them up in the air,

Oh, technicallly it's possible, I agree with you there. I'm just calling Bullshit on this spokesperson's claim. They've repeatedly claimed similar shoot downs in the past and nothing was ever shown either. Surprised it's still a military drone according to them and hasn't morphed into CIA/MI6/Mossad equipment yet.

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keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4094 times:

You deny every loss until proven otherwise.

You can also say "missing" iso "shot down by the enemy" or say there was a technical issue.

The truth is expendable is these cases, managing perceptions is all.

GST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 927 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4055 times:

Quoting keesje (Reply 7):
or say there was a technical issue.

Quoting keesje (Reply 7):

The truth is expendable is these cases

Shrapnel and bullets are pretty sure causes of technical issues, so in this scenario the quasi truth is maintained

bikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1591 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3980 times:

Quoting GST (Reply 8):
Shrapnel and bullets are pretty sure causes of technical issues,

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KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11708 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3915 times:

Why would the US use a Preditor so far inland in Iran? We have much better platforms like Global Hawk (FL-650+), or even the U-2R/S (FL-700+). That is not even counting the many US space based systems.

HaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2069 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3850 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):
Why would the US use a Preditor so far inland in Iran? We have much better platforms like Global Hawk (FL-650+), or even the U-2R/S (FL-700+). That is not even counting the many US space based systems.

My thoughts exactly. Why risk the propaganda coup?

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kalvado From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 471 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3827 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):

Why would the US use a Preditor so far inland in Iran? We have much better platforms like Global Hawk (FL-650+), or even the U-2R/S (FL-700+). That is not even counting the many US space based systems.

Photography is not the only way to collect information. For example, drone could do air sampling - something you cannot do at FL650 or from the orbit. Or measuring radiation levels. Or doing x-ray and gamma-ray spectroscopy.
I would expect those things can tell much more than simple imaging, and all that needs to be done in vicinity of operating site.

bikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1591 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 22 hours ago) and read 3327 times:

Quoting kalvado (Reply 12):

Nice input. In that case the drones may have been operated by the IAEA.