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Embraer Selects IAE V2500 For KC-390  
User currently offlineSpruceMoose From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 119 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 11326 times:

It looks like Embraer has selected a version of the IAE V2500 for the KC-390:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...litary-market-with-kc-390-win.html

http://iaenews.com/?p=390

Great to see another application for the V2500!

-SpruceMoose

[edit to add IAE link]

[Edited 2011-08-06 14:26:53]


It flew at an altitude of six feet for a distance of four and a half feet. Then we discovered rain makes it catch fire.
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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31387 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11262 times:
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IAE needs a win after being frozen out of the commercial market (once the A320 Classic ends production in favor of the A320neo) so   .

User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2771 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 10363 times:

An unexpected choice - the "typical" thing to do would have been to go for the so popular CFM56. This is definitely a big win for IAE as it will help sustain them beyond the NEO EIS. I wonder if the fleet of IAE-powered A32x's, plus the pontential KC-390 orders, will be enough to sustain additional PIP's in the future, to help its competitiveness (even if it will always stay inferior to Leap-X and GTF).

User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10160 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
IAE needs a win after being frozen out of the commercial market (once the A320 Classic ends production in favor of the A320neo) so .
Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
An unexpected choice - the "typical" thing to do would have been to go for the so popular CFM56. This is definitely a big win for IAE as it will help sustain them beyond the NEO EIS. I wonder if the fleet of IAE-powered A32x's, plus the pontential KC-390 orders, will be enough to sustain additional PIP's in the future, to help its competitiveness (even if it will always stay inferior to Leap-X and GTF).

Agree IAE needed a win, but this choice kind of surprises me. I rather thought the LEAP-X might have been the choice. Still France-sourced (more or elss) which keeps the political decision for France to purchase the KC-390 on the table to some degree.



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 10142 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 3):
Agree IAE needed a win, but this choice kind of surprises me. I rather thought the LEAP-X might have been the choice. Still France-sourced (more or elss) which keeps the political decision for France to purchase the KC-390 on the table to some degree.

Perhaps Embraer felt that IAE's comparatively less full plate would allow it to focus more attention on the KC-390. Lesser demand for the V2500 could've also motivated IAE to agree a better deal for Embraer. It's a proven engine and good enough for the less fuel-price and technology sensitive military transport and derivatives market. Besides, the smaller, multi-national structure of the company may serve the partnership in good stead as they try to sell the KC-390 elsewhere. I think France's commitment to the KC-390 is a lot more dependent on Brazil's decision regarding the Rafale.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10092 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 4):
I think France's commitment to the KC-390 is a lot more dependent on Brazil's decision regarding the Rafale.

Oh, definitely. I think Rafale was more or less a done deal when da SIlva was the President, but now with Ms Roussef it is less clear what's going to happen. The F/A-18E/F is certainly back in the race. Ironic since she spent so much time being virulently anti-American as a member of MR8 in the 60s/70s.



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User currently offlineSpruceMoose From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 8900 times:

This is news on the IAE front:

Pratt & Whitney Buys Out Rolls-Royce Venture (by mffoda Oct 12 2011 in Civil Aviation)

(PW buying out RR's share of IAE, but then forming a new venture for future programs)

-SpruceMoose



It flew at an altitude of six feet for a distance of four and a half feet. Then we discovered rain makes it catch fire.
User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 8881 times:

I wonder if this is an attempt by P&W to bury the V2500 and force operators/manufacturers to focus on the GTF. Part of this deal as well is that RR shelve the Open Rotor concept (for now, anyway) and jump into the GTF world.


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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6898 times:

This could be a very significant development for the KC-390 program.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...mou-for-kc-390-cooperation-373424/

Quote:
"Boeing and Embraer have announced an agreement to collaborate on marketing and developing technologies for the latter's KC-390 transport/tanker.

The memorandum of understanding (MoU) calls for sharing 'specific technical knowledge,' but no details have yet been revealed. 'We didn't really get into the specifics,' says Boeing, 'it's just a collaboration to share technology.'

With Boeing's access to US and key foreign markets, the agreement includes exploring joint sales efforts.'



Although Boeing hastens to add.....

Quote:
'This agreement is not linked to F-X2,' says Boeing, referring to the fighter competition. 'This agreement with Embraer will continue regardless of results'."


Hmmn.....might be a launching pad too for cooperation in the lower-capacity airliner sector?



"Everyone is entitled to my opinion." - Garfield
User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12178 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6853 times:

Here is the PR from Boeing;

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2308


User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2771 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6487 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 8):
"Boeing and Embraer have announced an agreement to collaborate on marketing and developing technologies for the latter's KC-390 transport/tanker.
Quoting Devilfish (Reply 8):
might be a launching pad too for cooperation in the lower-capacity airliner sector?

I wouldn't read too much into this. It's just a vague declaration of intentions with no specifics. At most it will lead to some ad-hoc cooperation on specific projects (Brazil is pretty good with biofuels, for instance), and Boeing could help out it in the KC-390 sales efforts (and compete with rival LM's C-130J sales). But this is no big agreement and certainly far from any strategic partnership.


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