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Dornier 328 For Afsoc  
User currently offlineacabgd From Serbia, joined Jul 2005, 663 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14392 times:

I've seen a photo of a Dornier 328 which was recently aquired by the U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command (AFSOC).

Seems like a strange type choice. Does anyone have any info on why this particular model was chosen?


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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8528 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14145 times:

Cool. It is a high performance aircraft. It would also be incredibly cheap to buy. Not that the US government really cares about the cost. It shows some creative thinking is going on.

User currently onlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4832 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 16 hours ago) and read 12120 times:

Quoting Flighty (Reply 1):
It is a high performance aircraft. It would also be incredibly cheap to buy.

What could be more practical than that which you already own?.....

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Quoting Flighty (Reply 1):
Not that the US government really cares about the cost.

Seems that way with the Spartans.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 1):
It shows some creative thinking is going on.

They were indeed creative about that one.



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User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1356 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 4 hours ago) and read 11984 times:

Maybe they wanted a plane that looks discreet and isn't frequently associated with the American military? I suppose that depends on what it's going to be used for though.

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12142 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 11622 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 2):
Quoting Flighty (Reply 1): It is a high performance aircraft. It would also be incredibly cheap to buy.
What could be more practical than that which you already own?.....

Unfortunately the USAF wants to get rid of the C-27Js.


User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11573 times:

Special Ops is a bit outside the normal equipment spec system. They get a lot of unusual stuff.

The SOC unit at Cannon AFB, Clovis, New Mexico has several of different aircraft types - Pilatus PC-12, Do-328T, AN-28 and Dash 8-100/200 aircraft - many with N numbers not normal USAF designations and not normal military grey paint jobs.

Sometimes you don't want folks to know the aircraft is US military.


User currently offlinefridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11534 times:
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Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 5):
Special Ops is a bit outside the normal equipment spec system. They get a lot of unusual stuff.

The SOC unit at Cannon AFB, Clovis, New Mexico has several of different aircraft types - Pilatus PC-12, Do-328T, AN-28 and Dash 8-100/200 aircraft - many with N numbers not normal USAF designations and not normal military grey paint jobs.

Sometimes you don't want folks to know the aircraft is US military.

Well they know now!



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User currently onlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4832 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10934 times:

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 3):
I suppose that depends on what it's going to be used for though.
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 5):
Special Ops is a bit outside the normal equipment spec system.

Well, this certainly is 'special'.....

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http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/ac27j.jpg

They even shifted $32M from the JCA funds to pay for a Stinger II prototype. However, the recent renaming of the MC-130J to Commando II may give an indication of where things are headed.

Alenia had unveiled its own Praetorian gunship programme...but they'd be lucky to land a deal outside the SOCOM...that is, unless the Aeronautica Militare orders a few for themselves.



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User currently onlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4832 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 10201 times:

Here's a development that might see the Spartan come full circle and end up again with the State Department.....

http://www.defensenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012305270001

Quote:
"TAMPA, Fla. — Many were surprised last week when it was announced that U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would be speaking at a major special operations conference here.

But after listening to her and Navy Adm. William McRaven, head of U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM), it became clear that the two entities they lead have quietly forged an operational bond that has seen their staffs share space in Washington, here and out in the field — and that both want that bond to deepen.

The growing relationship comes as McRaven is looking to make changes to the Pentagon’s Unified Command Plan, which defines the roles, responsibilities and missions tasked to combatant commanders around the globe. There has been talk over the past several months that McRaven’s proposed changes would give his command more power to deploy special operators, which would be an end run around the geographic combatant commands and local U.S. embassies."



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User currently offlinemandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6858 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5710 times:

And just now a USAF SOF Do-328 has been interned at Banda Aceh's BTJ/WITT airport...
Reason: No overflying permit... and the aircraft reported volunteered to land at BTJ after requested by our military through the ATC (saves us from sending fighters to intercept). Aircraft reportedly was going from Maldives to Singapore.

Administrational Screw Up?   



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