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Poland Goes For 48 F-16's  
User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29800 posts, RR: 58
Posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4243 times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2958381.stm

Poland has ordered 48 F-16 fighters from Lockheed-Martin to modernize it's airforce. The 3.5 billion dollar order will also include training and spares.

The Lockheed defeated proposals from Saab and Dassault to win the order.


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User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 4140 times:

Does anyone know what block series Poland is buying? It seems like the F-16 line just keeps racking up orders. Not to bad for an aircraft that was once looked down on by those in the U.S.A.F. when it initially entered service. Its production line has outlived the F-14A/B/D, F-15C, and the F/A-18A/B/C/D


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User currently offlineSharpnfuzzy From Canada, joined Jun 2001, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 4127 times:

I guess it's official now, but it's been known for a while now.. and reportedly they are block 52 Cs and Ds.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/military/read.main/12061/


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4113 times:

CX, the F-16 has not outlasted the F-15 and F/A-18 in production.
Both models are still being built today (in upgraded versions of course, but an F-16C Block 60 is quite a different beast from the F-16A block 10 or early F-16Cs and might better be called F-16G (E being taken by the XL)).

F-14 entered production over 10 years before the F-16 and had a far smaller market that was saturated sooner.



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User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4092 times:

I prayed that the Polaks wouldnt go for Mirages and Saabs, that would be a pity...a realy pity..

User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4112 times:

Poland selected Block 52 F-16's. They also selected the PW F-100 as the engine to power the aircraft. One of my co-workers worked on F-16's in the USAF and he said he preferred the GE F110 over the F100. Anyway, Poland got a good deal along with getting a good aircraft.

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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3671 times:

it's noe june 2004, any update on the staus of our order?


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User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3668 times:

Jwenting,

CX747 was pretty specific in listing the "F-15C, and the F/A-18A/B/C/D" all of which are not in production.

The F-15E/K are the only F-15's that are still in production. F-15E deliveries for the USAF end in 4th quarter this year. The -15K production run of 40 ends in mid 2008.


The F/A-18C/D are still available but are not actively being marketed and it's not likely that the US NAVY would need new C/D's now that the E/F/G line is up and running at almost full rate.
As far as my research shows the last C/D that was produced was a F/A-18C built in Halli for the Finnish Air Force. The last US built -18C/D was delivered to Canada in 1998.

[Edited 2004-06-23 08:16:26]


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User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3664 times:

I just noticed that this post was revived from a year ago.

The information is still accurate as is, if it had been posted in April of 03.



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User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1647 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3519 times:

I have done some research on the subject. The F/A-18 order fell through.

The only Western aircraft that Poland operates are.

(1) Bell 412HP

(4) Kaman SH-2G



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User currently offlineGreaser From Bahamas, joined Jan 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3496 times:

I noticed Dassault hasnt been doing well lately with contracts, any word on the Singapore one???


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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3487 times:

And people once said that General Dynamics couldn't design anything smaller than an 18-wheeler.

User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3478 times:

Sinlock, add a #3 to that list...

Poland took delivery of the first of its CN-295s.


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I also heard an unconfirmed rumor that they were getting used C-130s.

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User currently offlineAFHokie From United States of America, joined May 2004, 224 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

Speaking of F-16's and 18wheelers, has anyone ever seen the F-16 that the air force took and modified to fold up and fit inside a tractor trailer? It was an honest to goodness jet that used to fly missions, its stripped of all the avionics, engine, etc and now used in the Air Force Experience display at air shows and other events now.

User currently offlineTriple seven From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

The last US built -18C/D was delivered to Canada in 1998.

I didn't know that Canada operates the C/D at all. I was under the impression that RCAF operates exclusively the A/Bs.


User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

You are almost certainly correct on that one Triple seven. Sinlock must have meant either Switzerland or Finland (or possibly Kuwait). Sadly, Canada has been steadily reducing its CF-18 force for the past decade.

LY744.



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User currently offlineSean1234 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2927 times:

Aren't Polish troops in Iraq? I wouldn't be surprised if Poland cashed in its chips and so the US gov made sure it got a good deal.


Sean


User currently offlineAFHokie From United States of America, joined May 2004, 224 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2871 times:

I don't know if this is still true or not, but earlier this year they did have the third largest contingent of troops in Iraq behind the US and UK

User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29800 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

Well that is the rumor why the US Forces had to give up their M1911A1's for Beretta M9's.

We got use of Aviano in the trade.



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User currently offlineAFHokie From United States of America, joined May 2004, 224 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

Do you mean use Aviano during Kosovo? The Beretta has replaced the M1911 since the late 80's

User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29800 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2966 times:

Yes, that Aviano.

It has been a US base for a while, long before Kosovo.



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