art From Lebanon, joined Feb 2005, 2937 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 9045 times:
Reported on the Dubai Air Show news site, Oman is to order 12 new build tranche 2 Typhoons. Finalisation of the order is expected end 2011 / early 2012.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12706 posts, RR: 80 Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 8854 times:
Let's just hope our wonderful Prime Minister ('You do the fighting, I'll do the talking') does not transfer them from the RAF.
Unless they are replaced by Tranche 3's for the RAF.
But it does say new build,
garysted From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 54 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 8833 times:
Quoting GDB (Reply 1): Let's just hope our wonderful Prime Minister ('You do the fighting, I'll do the talking') does not transfer them from the RAF.
Unless they are replaced by Tranche 3's for the RAF.
But it does say new build,
Exactly what I was thinking. Mind you I'll believe the Omani deal when I see photo's of the aircraft on delivery. A couple of years ago we even got as far as having an Omani build number being seen on at least one airframe under assembly at Warton. Ironically, that aircraft (ZK380) was then delivered to the RAF at Coningsby and then promptly joined the fleet that is cannibalized for spares, and has never flown since.
You wouldn't put it past the MoD to wrangle out of 12 tranche 2 deliveries though, and not replace them. That's what happened with the 24 inital Saudi aircraft assembled at Warton. Any Typhoon exports are good for BAe/Eurofighter and the MoD, but bad for the RAF.
garysted From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 54 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8469 times:
Quoting GDB (Reply 3): I thought they had been changed to Tranche 3's, with the 16 actual T3's ordered, making the T3 total of 40?
I must admit it got very confusing as to exactly who was having what a few years ago when they all started to bicker over the contract for Tranche 3. Although it's old news, the original order for Tranche 2 and the RAF was 89, which then became 91 because of airframes diverted from Tranche 1 to Austria, and then what I think is the current number of 67 because of the 24 aircraft diverted to Saudi. These were supposedly going to be replaced in Tranche 2 at first, and not affect Tranche 3 but that seemed to disappear quite quickly in the run upto the Tranche 3 wrangling. Tranche 3 was originally 88 airframes for the RAF, but became Tranche 3A and just 40 when they finally agreed the contract in 2009. I don't think any of the partners has any plans to acquire aircraft in Tranche 3B unless finances and circumstances change markedly. I suppose the MoD could claim they were only originally going to acquire 16 aircraft in Tranche 3A if the Saudi deal had not happened and that by buying 40 they have replaced the lost aircraft, but I think I would need a little more convincing explanation and evidence than just the word of the MoD before I believed that.
Quote: "The British-based BAE said in an interim management statement Oct. 11 that it expected to conclude contract negotiations with Oman for the supply of 12 Typhoon Tranche 3 aircraft and an associated support package by the end of this year."
.....something positive might come out of this yet.
Garyck From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 283 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6098 times:
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Quoting Devilfish (Reply 5): .....something positive might come out of this yet.
I hope so, The Oman order really been dragging along, Then will they also be fitted with conformal tanks?
I need to get to Warton a little more often, Especally as the New batch of Saudi Typhoons will start emerging soon, as well as New Saudi Hawks later on in year/into 2014.
Quote: "LONDON — BAE Systems is preparing to close a deal with Oman to supply Typhoon fighters and Hawk jet trainers to the country’s air force.
The deal, expected to be signed in Oman on Dec. 21, is part of a wider defense pact due to be inked by the two governments that day, said industry sources who asked not to be named.
Twelve of the Eurofighter Typhoons will be delivered to Oman to replace aging Jaguar aircraft, which make up part of Oman’s strike force.
[.....]
Oman will receive the latest Tranche 3 version of the Typhoon coming off assembly lines at BAE and other Eurofighter partner nations Germany, Italy and Spain."
The Hawk trainers are a nice additional sale to the Tranche 3s for BAe. Of course, the report failed to mention what year.
art From Lebanon, joined Feb 2005, 2937 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (5 months 8 hours ago) and read 3663 times:
Quoting Devilfish (Reply 7): "LONDON — BAE Systems is preparing to close a deal with Oman to supply Typhoon fighters and Hawk jet trainers to the country’s air force.
The deal, expected to be signed in Oman on Dec. 21, is part of a wider defense pact due to be inked by the two governments that day, said industry sources who asked not to be named.
Will they? Won't they include Typhoon in the deal? I think I'll wait until 21st December to find out.
Quote: "BAE Systems has secured a deal for 12 Typhoon Tranche 3 fighters and eight Hawk advanced jet trainer aircraft, with deliveries to start in 2017.
Oman will be the seventh air force to operate the Typhoon, says BAE. Other operators are the UK, Germany, Italy, Spain, Austria and Saudi Arabia.
The Oman contract comprises a provision to include the Euroradar consortium's E-Scan active electronically scanned array radar."
Still quite a wait before delivery. But I guess the deal has survived the doomsday gloom! .
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