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Amazing Video Of An Apache Crash In Afghanistan  
User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2108 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6285 times:

Both of the crew lived (amazingly) and noone on the ground died either.

After the low speed pass his cyclic climb looked... off. I wonder if he just didn't get as much altitude as he thought he would before doing the 180 and just ran out of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcTDwJcO_os

[Edited 2012-03-22 14:17:04]


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User currently offlinedragon6172 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6275 times:

Could have something to do with the altitude as well. Did not have as much power available as he thought he would.


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User currently offlineOroka From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 913 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5897 times:

Glad to hear no one was hurt.

On the other hand, crashing while showboating... he may be flying a desk shortly.


User currently offlineSSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 706 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5779 times:

Do you see the guy on the ground at 0:25? First standing with both arms in the air, then hitting the deck. Very close to dead. Closer than the pilots.

Also all the other soldiers just left of the crash swathe. Jeebus. Could've taken out what looks like 8-10 guys on the ground. They're all lucky the rotors stayed on during the first impact.

[Edited 2012-03-23 11:50:48]

User currently offlineJohnM From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 347 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5753 times:

That footage will be seen at every unit's safety day this year. The goal is not to be "that guy".

User currently offlineXT6Wagon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 3409 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5385 times:

Quoting JohnM (Reply 4):
this year

I'd not be suprised if it lasted alot longer than that. Clearly the army just spent alot of money to recieve such good "what not to do" footage.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5375 times:

Quoting Oroka (Reply 2):
On the other hand, crashing while showboating... he may be flying a desk shortly.

Specifically a civilian desk.....showboating causes that.

Quoting HaveBlue (Thread starter):
. I wonder if he just didn't get as much altitude as he thought he would before doing the 180 and just ran out of it.

He knew he was in trouble before he hit.

If you look closely at the moments before the crash you can see the main blades coning. You have to be pulling a lot of power to get them to do that.



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User currently onlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1833 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5194 times:
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Amazing is not a word I would use to describe this video. Disgraceful is more appropriate, that fool could have killed a dozen of his colleagues while trying to look cool. Dishonourable discharge heading his direction I would assume.

I would of hoped that the US army trained their troops better than this. Being aware of how the altitude affects the aircrafts performance is essential.....somewhere in Afghanistan some allied troops may not receive fire support as the US forces are now less an AH-64.


User currently offlineSP90 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5117 times:

Quoting Oroka (Reply 2):
he may be flying a desk shortly.

His next assignment will be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog poop out of HK.

That is a 2 man aircraft. Will only the pilot be disciplined or will the gunner be facing charges as well?


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5098 times:

The guy in front may if he didn't protest but I don't remember if he has controls up front.

If they got him on the CVR saying, "Doit" he is hosed too.

I'm an Army accident investigation all paths lead to pilot error



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User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2108 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4978 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 7):
mazing is not a word I would use to describe this video. Disgraceful is more appropriate

The video is amazing. The pilots actions were unconscionable.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 9):
The guy in front may if he didn't protest but I don't remember if he has controls up front.

I'm pretty sure that the front seater doesn't have controls. In any case it is my opinion that the gunner won't be punished.



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