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New All Fly By Wire F-15s For Saudi  
User currently offlinetommytoyz From Tonga, joined Jan 2007, 1353 posts, RR: 6
Posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5261 times:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...st%20Modernization&channel=defense

[i]The F-15SA is the second version (after Singapore) to be delivered with the APG-63(V)3 active, electronically scanned array (AESA) radar. It is the first to have BAE Systems’ digital electronic warfare system (DEWS), .....Like the Singaporean aircraft, it has a Lockheed Martin AAS-42 infrared search-and-track system, known as Tiger­Eye on the F-15.

The Saudi variant is the first all-fly-by-wire F-15, which is expected to reduce maintenance requirements because the controls are self-rigging. It has a so-called PDM-free wing that does not require periodic depot maintenance on its structure. Another change is that the wing stores stations Nos. 1 and 9 are activated, mainly in order to carry a larger air-to-air load in conjunction with air-to-surface weapons. The Saudi order includes AGM-88B High-Speed Antiradiation Missiles from U.S. stocks.[i]

Are these F-15s better than any in the US inventory? Certainly they are the 1st all fly by wire ones. Though I am not sure that helps in combat.

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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5220 times:

None of the USAF F-15s are FBW, but all of the F-16s are.

User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5211 times:

Quoting tommytoyz (Thread starter):
Are these F-15s better than any in the US inventory? Certainly they are the 1st all fly by wire ones. Though I am not sure that helps in combat.

Well, it certainly should be better than any F-15 the USAF has. Life cycle costs go down with the PDM-free wing and the FBW FCS should reduce the line maintenance requirements before any mission. The AESA helps a lot as well.



Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
User currently offlinetommytoyz From Tonga, joined Jan 2007, 1353 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5194 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 2):
The AESA helps a lot as well.

Weren't the USAF F-15s upgraded with new AESA radars? I think they were. But I am not sure if they are of the latest and greatest versions or up to the Saudi version.

The Saudi order includes AGM-88B High-Speed Antiradiation Missiles from U.S. stocks.
That's one thing the USAF F-15's don't carry. The F-16s do the Wild Weasel radar suppression work for the USAF.
This enables them to suppress Radars and carry bombs to target at the same time.

USAF F-15s also don't have anything like the AN/AAS-42 Infra-Red Search-and-Track (IRST) system. Or am I wrong? It's similar to the fact that the most advanced F-16s (Block 60) are not flown by the USAF.






[Edited 2012-03-31 16:59:09]

User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5171 times:

Quoting tommytoyz (Reply 3):
Weren't the USAF F-15s upgraded with new AESA radars? I think they were. But I am not sure if they are of the latest and greatest versions or up to the Saudi version.

I believe this is an on-going program, not yet complete.



Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
User currently offlineChrisba777er From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4737 times:

Quoting tommytoyz (Thread starter):
The Saudi order includes AGM-88B High-Speed Antiradiation Missiles from U.S. stocks.[i]

Telling indeed. Did they order any GBU28s as well I wonder?  



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
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