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North Korean Rocket: Launch Window Announced  
User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2934 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6722 times:

The rocket to send a North Korean satellite into space (as they claim) is now fueled.

Reporters in North Korea are being told to be ready for a launch at or after 9:00am local time (about 9pm tonight Eastern time). I will have my popcorn ready.


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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7958 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6698 times:

Stupid time (for us Europeans). By rhe way: do you have a source?


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6636 times:

A what altitude does anyone guess it will explode at? Any bets on if the JASDF will have to shoot it down?

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 1):
Stupid time (for us Europeans).

Film at 11.


User currently offlinePlayLoud From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6627 times:

That's 6pm PDT. Right before the Dodger game. I'm in for an entertaining night!

User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14030 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6624 times:

So even if it is supposed to be a potential ICBM, they are still back at the technological levels of the 1950s: non-storable liquid fuel instead of solid propellant, like the Minuteman, which can be stored and ready for immediate launch for years.
What they got is essentially the equivalent of an Atlas rocket or maybe a Titan II.

Jan


User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2934 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6621 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
Any bets on if the JASDF will have to shoot it down?

JMSDF is tasked with shooting it down with SM-3 if it strays. JASDF is running CAP since the Aegis radars on the destroyers will be busy with other things.



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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2934 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6599 times:

Steve Herman, VOA reporter, has been reporting on this.

"#DPRK declared rocket launch window now open. No indication blast-off imminent."

Tweeted at 16:00 MST



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User currently offlineairtran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6575 times:
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Didn't Japan say they would shoot it down if it comes into their airspace?


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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2934 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6528 times:

Hrrm tweets of

"If no technical glitches I'm anticipating attempted blast-off for #DPRK launch ~1100-1130 KST today."

and shortly thereafter:

"KCNA: Kim Jong Un elected chairman of the Central Military Commission. #DPRK"

Will there be fireworks?

Follow reporter here: http://twitter.com/#!/w7voa



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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2934 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6499 times:

Scrubbed for today?

"No indication from #DPRK that launch going ahead this morning as anticipated. Launch window is 0700-1200 through Monday."



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User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2039 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 6439 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
A what altitude does anyone guess it will explode at?

I'd be surprised if it get's higher than 12,000ft before completely falling apart. I bet that the scientists and technicians are sweating bullets right now.



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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2934 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 6210 times:

Quoting TheCol (Reply 10):
I'd be surprised if it get's higher than 12,000ft before completely falling apart. I bet that the scientists and technicians are sweating bullets right now.

Failed 60 seconds into flight and fell into the ocean. They may have better luck with catapaults.

Twitter reporting that invited journalists did not get to see the launch. NK minders mum. South Korean navy/cg looking for wreckage.



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7958 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 6197 times:

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 11):
Failed 60 seconds into flight and fell into the ocean. They may have better luck with catapaults.

Other sources say 90 - 120 seconds. Apparently the first stage didn't separate from the second stage. They had more luck in 2009 when the second stage didn't separate from the third. In other words: they get worse - just like the rest of the country.



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User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2039 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6099 times:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17698438

North Korea said its scientists were assessing what had caused the failure.

Translation: "all the scientists were immediately lined up in front of the drawing board and shot"

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 11):
Failed 60 seconds into flight and fell into the ocean.
Quoting NoUFO (Reply 12):
Other sources say 90 - 120 seconds.

Close enough.  

IMHO, I don't think it's a good idea for the UN Security Council to make a big deal out of this. The communist leaders of North Korea count on this attention to give their regime legitimacy. They will continue to build missiles, and fail miserably, as long as they know the rest of the world cares.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10901 posts, RR: 37
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6044 times:

North Korea rocket launch fails

  

North Korea's keenly-watched rocket launch has failed, Pyongyang has confirmed.
The rocket - seen by many as a banned test of long-range missile technology - was launched from north-west North Korea early on Friday.
The US, Japan and South Korea say it flew only for a short time before breaking up and crashing into waters off the Korean peninsula.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17698438

              



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User currently offlineAF1624 From France, joined Jul 2006, 659 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6019 times:

What a joke. It's a shame there's no video, that would have been really entertaining.

I'm now eagerly waiting to see how they're going to announce this to the people of DPRK.

* The meanies from the west have destroyed our rocket or

* Rocket fails because American material was used or

* Rocket launch was successful, satellite now fully functional in orbit (while showing edited images of an old russian launch)

Ahah, it's going to be brilliant.



Cheers
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10901 posts, RR: 37
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5987 times:

There is a video here

North Korea confirms rocket launch failure
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17698732

Pyongyang, North Korea (CNN) -- Defying warnings from the international community, North Korea launched a long-range rocket on Friday, but it broke apart before escaping the earth's atmosphere and fell into the sea, officials said.

"It flew about a minute, and it flew into the ocean," said Noriyuki Shikata, a spokesman for Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda.

http://www.gizmag.com/north-korea-rocket-fails/22148/

  

Embarrassed by rocket crash, North Korea may try nuclear test
MAXIM DUNCAN, JU-MIN PARK, Reuters April 13, 2012 4:03pm

PYONGYANG/SEOUL—North Korea said its much-hyped long-range rocket launch failed on Friday, in a very rare and embarrassing public admission of failure by the hermit state and a blow for its new young leader who faces international outrage over the attempt.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...h-north-korea-may-try-nuclear-test

NK FAIL



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User currently offlineRaginMav From United States of America, joined May 2004, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5897 times:

Perhaps the NORKs aren't so disappointed. Now data from their 'weather satellite' won't interfere with their already stellar forecasting.


Too bad for you, 'lil kim.


User currently onlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4852 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5829 times:

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 11):
They may have better luck with catapaults.

RP's ballistic defense network had those arrayed all along its northeastern shores in case the NK missile strayed off-course.   

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 16):

Embarrassed by rocket crash, North Korea may try nuclear test
MAXIM DUNCAN, JU-MIN PARK, Reuters April 13, 2012 4:03pm


Quote:
"The isolated North, using the launch to celebrate the 100th birthday of the dead founding president Kim Il-sung and mark the rise to power of his grandson Kim Jong-un, is now widely expected to press ahead with its third nuclear test to show its military strength."


KIS must be squirming in his grave. However, the region might not be completely free from the harmful effects of a failed nuclear test.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 16):

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...-test

Fishing folks interviewed in connection with the launch expressed dismay that they were deprived of their daily sustenance by a whole lot of panicked over reaction. In fairness, the government would have had a dilemma if any one of them came to harm.



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7958 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5704 times:

Shouldn't have launched it on Friday the 13th.


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User currently offlineglideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1618 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5692 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 19):
Shouldn't have launched it on Friday the 13th.

Irrelevant. All the Controllers had thrown salt over their shoulders prior to ignition.



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User currently offlineAF1624 From France, joined Jul 2006, 659 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5556 times:

I don't know if any of you noticed but if you look at the video where you see the "technicians" in front of their "terminals", you can see that nothing about these terminals look true or functional.

The screens show video, some open windows, a fake trajectory around a planet (which looks drawn more than anything) and even some heart-rate-like looking curbs. Basically, it's all fake.



Cheers
User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7958 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5469 times:

To be honest, we don't know how much of it was fake. I understand there have been two control rooms (1 and 2). We don't know if it is a 'fake trajectory', after all it remirrors the data from the previously published NOTAM, and of course it looks drawn. But I too think that some screens appear to display unnecessary things, but what I do know?

When we compare the rooms to one of ESA's - is that really that much of a difference?

Edit: Link

[Edited 2012-04-14 12:16:53]


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10901 posts, RR: 37
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5452 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 19):
Shouldn't have launched it on Friday the 13th.

This is the best one!

              



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User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3775 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5433 times:

The laugh's on us western nations for raising a fuss over the laughable prospect that NK might actually be able to launch something up on a ballistic trajectory, let alone orbital altitude... That's probably the reason the Chinese didn't seem to worry a bit.

It was just a case of sitting back, cracking open a beer and enjoy the fail avalanche.

C'mon Kim Jong Un, aim for the Moon. I heard it's made of cake!



Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
25 NoUFO : Actually they did. They worry about the forthcoming 3rd test of a nuclear bomb as well. As you said, we may enjoy some Schadenfreude (I think there i
26 francoflier : I'd also be a lot more worried about a nuclear bomb test. A wet skyrocket is one thing, but let these clueless idiots play with with enriched Pu and b
27 Post contains links and images Devilfish : Rumors are that the recent photos were staged, and that the actual rocket was destroyed last year by a cruise missile released from a Silent Eagle co
28 MD11Engineer : So what was it them what the South Korean, American and Japanese radar stations saw plummeting into the East China Sea? Jan
29 Post contains links and images Devilfish : A figment of their imagination? As to the question in Reply 25...there is this..... http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...%2C-seoul-unveils-new-missi
30 Post contains images columba : here is some exclusive footage: [Edited 2012-05-04 05:57:30]
31 Post contains links Confuscius : It might have gone something like this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGf-sS4js5Y
32 Post contains links and images francoflier : Or like that: http://youtu.be/icJOjKwn_7Y
33 Post contains images Confuscius : That's funny too...but it doesn't have a certain je ne sais quoi like the former.
34 Post contains images francoflier : Right, but it has a lil' sumthin'
35 bennett123 : The Boeing video was great fun. However, it raises the obvious query that arises from these "sales brochures". While you are doing the Buck Rogers stu
36 Post contains images connies4ever : Eventually they'll get it right. It took the USA some years to perfect IRBM/ICBM technology, if anyone remembers that far back. I'll get flamed for i
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