Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2738 posts, RR: 1 Posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5513 times:
The rocket to send a North Korean satellite into space (as they claim) is now fueled.
Reporters in North Korea are being told to be ready for a launch at or after 9:00am local time (about 9pm tonight Eastern time). I will have my popcorn ready.
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11708 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5427 times:
A what altitude does anyone guess it will explode at? Any bets on if the JASDF will have to shoot it down?
Quoting NoUFO (Reply 1): Stupid time (for us Europeans).
PlayLoud From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 53 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5418 times:
That's 6pm PDT. Right before the Dodger game. I'm in for an entertaining night!
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13337 posts, RR: 64 Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5415 times:
So even if it is supposed to be a potential ICBM, they are still back at the technological levels of the 1950s: non-storable liquid fuel instead of solid propellant, like the Minuteman, which can be stored and ready for immediate launch for years.
What they got is essentially the equivalent of an Atlas rocket or maybe a Titan II.
Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2738 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5412 times:
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2): Any bets on if the JASDF will have to shoot it down?
JMSDF is tasked with shooting it down with SM-3 if it strays. JASDF is running CAP since the Aegis radars on the destroyers will be busy with other things.
airtran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3639 posts, RR: 12 Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5366 times:
Didn't Japan say they would shoot it down if it comes into their airspace?
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TheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2010 posts, RR: 6 Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5230 times:
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2): A what altitude does anyone guess it will explode at?
I'd be surprised if it get's higher than 12,000ft before completely falling apart. I bet that the scientists and technicians are sweating bullets right now.
No matter how random things may appear, there's always a plan.
Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2738 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5001 times:
Quoting TheCol (Reply 10): I'd be surprised if it get's higher than 12,000ft before completely falling apart. I bet that the scientists and technicians are sweating bullets right now.
Failed 60 seconds into flight and fell into the ocean. They may have better luck with catapaults.
Twitter reporting that invited journalists did not get to see the launch. NK minders mum. South Korean navy/cg looking for wreckage.
NoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7796 posts, RR: 13 Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4988 times:
Quoting Spacepope (Reply 11): Failed 60 seconds into flight and fell into the ocean. They may have better luck with catapaults.
Other sources say 90 - 120 seconds. Apparently the first stage didn't separate from the second stage. They had more luck in 2009 when the second stage didn't separate from the third. In other words: they get worse - just like the rest of the country.
North Korea said its scientists were assessing what had caused the failure.
Translation: "all the scientists were immediately lined up in front of the drawing board and shot"
Quoting Spacepope (Reply 11): Failed 60 seconds into flight and fell into the ocean.
Quoting NoUFO (Reply 12): Other sources say 90 - 120 seconds.
Close enough.
IMHO, I don't think it's a good idea for the UN Security Council to make a big deal out of this. The communist leaders of North Korea count on this attention to give their regime legitimacy. They will continue to build missiles, and fail miserably, as long as they know the rest of the world cares.
No matter how random things may appear, there's always a plan.
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10243 posts, RR: 40 Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4835 times:
North Korea rocket launch fails
North Korea's keenly-watched rocket launch has failed, Pyongyang has confirmed.
The rocket - seen by many as a banned test of long-range missile technology - was launched from north-west North Korea early on Friday.
The US, Japan and South Korea say it flew only for a short time before breaking up and crashing into waters off the Korean peninsula.
Pyongyang, North Korea (CNN) -- Defying warnings from the international community, North Korea launched a long-range rocket on Friday, but it broke apart before escaping the earth's atmosphere and fell into the sea, officials said.
"It flew about a minute, and it flew into the ocean," said Noriyuki Shikata, a spokesman for Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda.
Embarrassed by rocket crash, North Korea may try nuclear test
MAXIM DUNCAN, JU-MIN PARK, Reuters April 13, 2012 4:03pm
PYONGYANG/SEOUL—North Korea said its much-hyped long-range rocket launch failed on Friday, in a very rare and embarrassing public admission of failure by the hermit state and a blow for its new young leader who faces international outrage over the attempt.
RaginMav From United States of America, joined May 2004, 372 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4688 times:
Perhaps the NORKs aren't so disappointed. Now data from their 'weather satellite' won't interfere with their already stellar forecasting.
Devilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4427 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4620 times:
Quoting Spacepope (Reply 11): They may have better luck with catapaults.
RP's ballistic defense network had those arrayed all along its northeastern shores in case the NK missile strayed off-course.
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 16):
Embarrassed by rocket crash, North Korea may try nuclear test
MAXIM DUNCAN, JU-MIN PARK, Reuters April 13, 2012 4:03pm
Quote:
"The isolated North, using the launch to celebrate the 100th birthday of the dead founding president Kim Il-sung and mark the rise to power of his grandson Kim Jong-un, is now widely expected to press ahead with its third nuclear test to show its military strength."
KIS must be squirming in his grave. However, the region might not be completely free from the harmful effects of a failed nuclear test.
Fishing folks interviewed in connection with the launch expressed dismay that they were deprived of their daily sustenance by a whole lot of panicked over reaction. In fairness, the government would have had a dilemma if any one of them came to harm.
glideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1542 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4483 times:
Quoting NoUFO (Reply 19): Shouldn't have launched it on Friday the 13th.
Irrelevant. All the Controllers had thrown salt over their shoulders prior to ignition.
"All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved"
AF1624 From France, joined Jul 2006, 572 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4347 times:
I don't know if any of you noticed but if you look at the video where you see the "technicians" in front of their "terminals", you can see that nothing about these terminals look true or functional.
The screens show video, some open windows, a fake trajectory around a planet (which looks drawn more than anything) and even some heart-rate-like looking curbs. Basically, it's all fake.
NoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7796 posts, RR: 13 Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4260 times:
To be honest, we don't know how much of it was fake. I understand there have been two control rooms (1 and 2). We don't know if it is a 'fake trajectory', after all it remirrors the data from the previously published NOTAM, and of course it looks drawn. But I too think that some screens appear to display unnecessary things, but what I do know?
When we compare the rooms to one of ESA's - is that really that much of a difference?
francoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3195 posts, RR: 10 Reply 24, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4224 times:
The laugh's on us western nations for raising a fuss over the laughable prospect that NK might actually be able to launch something up on a ballistic trajectory, let alone orbital altitude... That's probably the reason the Chinese didn't seem to worry a bit.
It was just a case of sitting back, cracking open a beer and enjoy the fail avalanche.
C'mon Kim Jong Un, aim for the Moon. I heard it's made of cake!
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
25 NoUFO: Actually they did. They worry about the forthcoming 3rd test of a nuclear bomb as well. As you said, we may enjoy some Schadenfreude (I think there i
26 francoflier: I'd also be a lot more worried about a nuclear bomb test. A wet skyrocket is one thing, but let these clueless idiots play with with enriched Pu and b
27 Devilfish: Rumors are that the recent photos were staged, and that the actual rocket was destroyed last year by a cruise missile released from a Silent Eagle co
28 MD11Engineer: So what was it them what the South Korean, American and Japanese radar stations saw plummeting into the East China Sea? Jan
29 Devilfish: A figment of their imagination? As to the question in Reply 25...there is this..... http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...%2C-seoul-unveils-new-missi
30 columba: here is some exclusive footage: [Edited 2012-05-04 05:57:30]
31 Confuscius: It might have gone something like this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGf-sS4js5Y
32 francoflier: Or like that: http://youtu.be/icJOjKwn_7Y
33 Confuscius: That's funny too...but it doesn't have a certain je ne sais quoi like the former.
35 bennett123: The Boeing video was great fun. However, it raises the obvious query that arises from these "sales brochures". While you are doing the Buck Rogers stu
36 connies4ever: Eventually they'll get it right. It took the USA some years to perfect IRBM/ICBM technology, if anyone remembers that far back. I'll get flamed for i
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