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User currently offlinerw774477 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1070 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6347 times:

Does anyone know where the 747 will land in order to deliver the Shuttle to the Intrepid ?

timetable ?

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User currently offlineav8r915 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6328 times:

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Shuttle Enterprise to Fly Over New York City Metro Area April 23


WASHINGTON -- NASA's 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA) with space shuttle Enterprise mounted atop will fly at a relatively low altitude over various parts of the New York City metropolitan area on Monday, April 23.

The Federal Aviation Administration is coordinating the flight, which is scheduled to occur between 9:30 and 11:30 a.m. EDT.

The exact route and timing of the flight depend on weather and operational constraints, including the on-time delivery of space shuttle Discovery to the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum Stephen F. Udvar-Hazy Center in Chantilly, Va., this week. If all goes as planned, the aircraft is expected to fly near a variety of landmarks in the metropolitan area, including the Statue of Liberty and the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum. When the flyover is complete, the SCA will land at John F. Kennedy International Airport.

During the weeks following the arrival, Enterprise will be "demated" from the 747 and placed on a barge that will be moved by tugboat up the Hudson River to the Intrepid museum in June. The shuttle will be lifted by crane and placed on the flight deck of the Intrepid, where it will be on exhibit to the public starting this summer in a temporary climate-controlled pavilion. The Intrepid continues to work on a permanent exhibit facility to showcase Enterprise that will enhance the museum's space-related exhibits and education curriculum.

If the flight is postponed for any reason, an additional notice will be released.

For more information about NASA's transfer of space shuttles to museums, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/transition

[Edited 2012-04-17 19:44:39]

User currently offlineHarleyDriver From United States of America, joined May 2010, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6244 times:

Looks like N911NA was retired in February and is now a parts bird for the Sofia project and N905NA. I assume N905NA will have the same fate after delivery of the Enterprise? I hope it has a better fate like a museum.


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User currently offlineeksath From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1300 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5998 times:
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Quoting HarleyDriver (Reply 2):
I assume N905NA will have the same fate after delivery of the Enterprise? I hope it has a better fate like a museum

No.

905 has life for a bit longer.

She will become the flight proficiency aircraft for the SOPFIA crew. She will also be used on follow on NASA projects as they come into fruition. Also, she will be rented out. Already she has been used twice by Boeing to transfer their Phantom Ray UAV from factory to testing location. The side of 905NA has a logo to commemorate that too. See this picture below:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/suresh_atapattu/6932694018/in/photostream



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User currently offlinechecksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5731 times:

Quoting HarleyDriver (Reply 2):
ooks like N911NA was retired in February and is now a parts bird for the Sofia project and N905NA. I assume N905NA will have the same fate after delivery of the Enterprise? I hope it has a better fate like a museum.

Nope...they still have another shuttle ferry flight in September to complete.


User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1819 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5580 times:
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Quoting av8r915 (Reply 1):
Shuttle Enterprise to Fly Over New York City Metro Area April 23.......
........If the flight is postponed for any reason, an additional notice will be released.

Update for 4 p.m. EDT, April 20: The Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum has announced that Enterprise's flight to New York has been "postponed until further notice due to unfavorable weather forecast" for Monday (April 23). More details to follow when available.

http://www.space.com/15352-space-shuttle-enterprise-move-nyc.html


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5383 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 5):
"postponed until further notice due to unfavorable weather forecast" for Monday (April 23). More details to follow when available.

Thank you for the update.

It does not change things much for the Intrepid Museum as they are not ready to receive Shuttle Enterprise right after they land at JFK. I suppose she will be put in a warehouse somewhere in the airport until she can be ferried to the air craft carrier in Manhattan.

Who will be paying for the covered dome that will house Enterprise at the Intrepid?

Concorde G-BOAD was also supposed to be put under a shelter when they received her but she is still outside.

 



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User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2314 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 5356 times:

NASA is holding a flight readiness review today (Monday) at 1pm, and should announce a rescheduled flight time after that. From the forecast, they say the earliest they should be able to fly is Wednesday, but we'll know more this afternoon.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 6):
It does not change things much for the Intrepid Museum as they are not ready to receive Shuttle Enterprise right after they land at JFK. I suppose she will be put in a warehouse somewhere in the airport until she can be ferried to the air craft carrier in Manhattan.

The shuttle is supposed to sit on the SCA for up to two weeks, while the mate/demate structure is disassembled at IAD, moved to JFK, and reassembled. Once it is off the SCA, it will stay in a hangar until time for the move to Intrepid. I've heard it will be sometime this summer, maybe a couple of months from now.



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User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1819 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 5349 times:
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In this document NASA say the plan is to display Enterprise as if she were about to land:

"Shuttle Enterprise, which was the prototype vehicle and used in NASA’s approach and landing tests in 1977, will move from the Smithsonian’s Udvar-Hazy Center to the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum in New York. At the Intrepid museum, plans call for visitors to be able to see Enterprise as if it were about to touch down on the runway during the landing tests that paved the way for future space shuttle flights. It also is expected to have a tailcone installed over the aft part of the shuttle, which was used to protect the space shuttle main engines and provide an aerodynamic shape when the shuttle was being flown on the back of a modified 747 jet called the Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA)."
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/pdf/608887main_T%26R.pdf

A facebook mate posted a pic (iPhone quality) that shows the SCA/Enterprise unit sitting on the ramp at IAD (Dulles airport)

Looks quite odd.

I am arriving into JFK on Wednesday afternoon, would be great to be able to see the flyover.

[Edited 2012-04-23 05:12:58]

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 5255 times:

This just came on FB
re-posting here.

NASA's Kennedy Space Center

NASA managers, in coordination with Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum officials, tentatively selected Wednesday, April 25 as the date to ferry space shuttle Enterprise from Washington’s Dulles International Airport to New York City’s John F. Kennedy International Airport.

Once officially approved, NASA's 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA) with Enterprise mounted atop will fly at a relatively low altitude over various parts of the New York City metropolitan area on Wednesday, April 25. If all goes as planned, the aircraft is expected to fly near a variety of landmarks in the area, including the Statue of Liberty and the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum. When the flyover is complete, the SCA will land at John F. Kennedy International Airport.

During the weeks following the arrival, Enterprise will be "demated" from the 747 and placed on a barge that will be moved by tugboat up the Hudson River to the Intrepid museum in June. The shuttle will be lifted by crane and placed on the flight deck of the Intrepid, where it will be on exhibit to the public starting this summer in a temporary climate-controlled pavilion. The Intrepid continues to work on a permanent exhibit facility to showcase Enterprise that will enhance the museum's space-related exhibits and education curriculum.

     



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User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1819 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 5250 times:
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http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/tr...e/enterprise_flight_postponed.html
"The decision was made at the conclusion of the Enterprise Ferry Flight Readiness Review (FRR) and is dependent on the outcome of a weather briefing Tuesday morning. A large region of low pressure dominating the east coast has made it difficult to reliably predict an acceptable day for the flight.

Once officially approved, NASA's 747 SCA with Enterprise mounted atop will fly at a relatively low altitude over various parts of the New York City metropolitan area on Wednesday, April 25.
The Federal Aviation Administration is coordinating the flight, which is scheduled to occur between 9:30 and 11:30 a.m. EDT, weather permitting. The exact route and timing depend on weather and operational constraints. "

Now that is upsetting, I land into JFK at approx 1300 local!!


User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5079 times:

Route of the flyover:

http://www.nycaviation.com/where-to-...ce-shuttle-enterprise-in-new-york/



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User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5005 times:

Currently scheduled for Friday pending favorable weather. Even though clearing skies are forecast, NW winds are predicted 18-25 with gusts to the 30's...this could again put a damper on the schedule.

User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3029 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4885 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 11):
Route of the flyover:

http://www.nycaviation.com/where-to-...york/

Great map, thanks.

I understand Enterprise will remain atop the SCA @ JFK until June when she is transferred to a barge to be ferried to Intrepid. Where at JFK will she sit?


User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2314 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4826 times:

She should be on the SCA for a week or two, until the mate/demate structure is brought up from IAD. The combo will likely remain down near Hangar 19, and once she is off the SCA, will go into the hangar until the transfer to the Intrepid. Today's ceremonies will take place near the remains of Hangar 12.


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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3519 posts, RR: 0
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Taxiing for takeoff now. CNN covering


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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4750 times:
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And shes off the ground...lots of flight control motion - looks windy


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User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1819 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4700 times:
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Dammit, I left JFK last night, had been secretly hoping for another delay until Monday when I get back!!

Maybe I will spot her on the ground......Hanger 19 you say?


User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4666 times:
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Touring NYC now.

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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4624 times:
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On final now.,...

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User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9338 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4617 times:

Sitting up on top of the building watching the Shuttle Carrier fly around? Best lunch break ever.


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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4617 times:
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And on the ground in NYC.....


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User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1819 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4562 times:
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Quoting stlgph (Reply 20):
Sitting up on top of the building watching the Shuttle Carrier fly around? Best lunch break ever.

I'm terribly jealous of you.

Here is a great image from the flyover, memories of Kai-Tak in Hong Kong!!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pmbreakfast/7118748857/


User currently offlinecontrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4516 times:

Pick I took at the job today.


[Edited 2012-04-27 11:25:52]


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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4446 times:
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Enterprise lost a faux tile on takeoff. Also the access panel for the ground emergency rescue opened up.

This photo is a zoom in from the photo available at the link below...

Courtesy: NASA


http://www.flickr.com/photos/nasahqphoto/7118831299/



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25 Post contains links SSTeve : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ASL0oS5ksU&feature=youtu.be Not going to be the best landing video... just jealous.[Edited 2012-04-27 17:11:16]
26 contrails : I watched the Discovery flyovers en route to IAD, and the Enterprise flyovers en route to JFK. I have two primary thoughts on these flights. 1. It's s
27 SSTeve : For a post that bemoans spending well into the 5-figure range while also bemoaning we're not burning 10-figure amounts on a quicker return to manned s
28 Post contains links Sinlock : This will give you a general idea of what it cost per hour, even if you double the cost it to inclued the Shuttle factor. It's nowhere near a 1,000,00
29 CCA : I hope someone makes a small documentary on the retiring of the shuttles and the role the SCA took, I saw some cameras inside the cockpit I hope we ge
30 eksath : NASA is NOT out of the business of manned space exploration. There are currently US astronauts on the ISS and there are others waiting to go when the
31 Post contains links and images moose135 : The view from Bayswater Park yesterday morning... 1 - Initial fly over at Kennedy 2 - With a NASA T-38 chase plane watching, the SCA makes a low appro
32 Eagleboy : Where exactly can I spot her, keep in mind I only visit JFK once a week at most!!! I have to second this, while I missed the flyby by 24 hours I was
33 moose135 : The combo is parked at the Easy-Bake Oven (AKA the deicing tent) next to the old Hangar 12 site. From what I saw on a friend's FB page, they are now
34 Post contains images soon7x7 : Nice photos John!...Bayswater a good choice obviously. It was a tough decision where to be for this occasion with all the potential opportunities. So
35 Eagleboy : I shall be keeping an eye out on Tuesday after my arrival into JFK.
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