B-HXB From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 745 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6241 times:
I'm normally on the civil forums so military is a new venture for me - but I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I am doing a project on military aircraft (in particular fighter jets - the Hawk and the Aermacchi) and I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of an independent source which would review the capabilities and performance specs of these two planes. I'm aware that each individual manufacturer has the detail but I'm looking for something from someone independent which effectively measures whether the aircrafts measure up to spec.
spudh From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 314 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6123 times:
Comparing data for militay aircraft is very difficult. I've a veritable library of books on my favorite fighters and you would be amazed at the spread of info out there. Performance data will vary from mission profile to profile.
A starting point for comparing data is wikipedia but you are at the mercy of the wiki gods for its authenticity and I doubt if any reviewer would accept it but at least its a complete datset. The most widely recognised independant source IMHO would be Janes but you could try www.fas.org as a reasonble source.
From my own experience I tend to go with books edited by Mike Spick or Bill Gunston but even then you have to pore over the info to break out what is operational data from manufacturers specificatons. If you just take range you will get completely different figures for, ferry, max range on internal fuel, combat radius, mission range (eg Hi-lo-lo-hi). The mission profile range armed might be a fifth of the ferry range! Similarly max speed, you'll get max clean, max sustained, max at altitude, max at low level etc.
The ideal data would be a report from a country which completed a fly off between the aircraft types in a procurement competion but I don't know how much of this gets out into the public domain.
HaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2161 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6115 times:
I'll second one of Spudh's choices... I've been using Janes as an aircraft Bible since I was in high school. Janes All The Worlds Aircraft is as exhaustive as it is a literally heavy book (bible) of aircraft data and history. Wiki will get you a good overview of the aircraft.
N328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6606 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5601 times:
The thing about the FAS site is that many of the entries were written by John Pike, who is now contributing to GlobalSecurity.org. What you'll find is that they'll both have articles based upon the same text, but the Global Security version is far more current.
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