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User currently offlineGoboeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2679 posts, RR: 14
Posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2843 times:

Hey everyone,
This might be my first post in this forum. I had my scanner tuned to Willow Grove NAS a few days ago, about 20 miles north of PHL. My mom was working near it that day and she told me about large planes with four engines. So I put on the scanner and as I did a white 707 with the callsign Harpo 77 Heavy was climbing out and heading south. I've never seen 707s at NXX before, and there were one or two others that day also. It was heading to OOD VOR and continuing down the coast. Anyone know what these planes were doing or where they're from?

Nick

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User currently offlineWoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 978 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2782 times:

They might be the Navy E-6A/E-6B TACAMO aircraft operating out of Tinker AFB VQ-3 and VQ-4 me thinks.

I couldn't tell you if the call signs correlated or not without looking at the JANAP 119 pub.

Cheers  Smile
Woodreau / KMVL



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16689 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2775 times:

The NJ ANG operates KC-135s out of MCGuire, one of the planes is a all white 707 with no boom.

No markings or entenas etc.

Not sure but it could be that plane I see it all the time doing touch and go's at McGuire, perhaps they were doing touch and go's at Willow Grove.

I've seen Willow Grove P-3s doing touch and go's at McGuire.



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User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2755 times:

Just to be a nitpicker the C-135 is not a 707 it is 12inches narrower, and also shorter than the 707 though they have the same birth from the Dash80.

anyway,
If it had newer CFM-56 engines it could have been one of the TACAMOs from here at Tinker or Pax in MD. If it had the older engines (the TF-33 like we use on the E-3) it could have been the Paul Revere Test bird out of Hanscom/Edwards for our E-8/RC-135 replacement testing.

Engines are a big factor on this one, any ideas. As for the callsign, Harpo i've talked to several diff types on that one, and don't know of any correlation of the top of my head.

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Lt-AWACS, Yankee Air Pirate


User currently offlineN1641 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2743 times:

Im leaning torwards air force 135 of some sort, could have been up to anything though, they do touch an go's all over the country, probably not a refueler, all the white ones ive seen do other stuff, what i really dont know

User currently offlineGoboeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2679 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

This was NOT a KC-135. The air traffic controller asked the pilot what type they were and the pilot replied "Boeing 707." Plus, the last clearance I heard them get was to climb to FL230. That's rather high if they're just going to Maryland. Also, I was looking at them from the side and then the rear and I did not see any fuel boom.

Nick


User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

so once again did it have short stubby engines (CFM-56), or long slender ones (TF-33) That will help with the ID.


Ciao, and Hook 'em,
Lt-AWACS, Yankee Air Pirate


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2670 times:

Nick,

We had a visit from the aforementioned E-6B TACAMO aircraft several months ago...heres a photo I took of it...is this what you saw?
http://www.rwy34.com/search/bigpic.php?id=888

Theres been a lot of odd stuff lately (more than usual) at NXX...there was an F-14 around a few days ago, also an F/A-18, as well as a P-3 AWACS model several times...wonder whats going on?

Greg



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User currently offlineGoboeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2679 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2613 times:

Yankee Air Pirate,

It had the long engines, just like the airliner 707s do. It was not like the ones in the picture Greg posted. Furthermore, the pilot actually identified the aircraft to the controller as a "Boeing 707." It also did not have that hump on the top.

Hey Greg,

Yeah I don't know what's going on at NXX lately, but I sure wish I could see through the trees in my neighbors backyard. I heard something really loud on Wednesday 6/3, whatever that was flying around.

Nick


User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2607 times:

Could it have been a NATO aircraft?

I say this because right now parked up here in ANC is LX-N 19997 a NATO 707.

I don't see any extra antennae or aerials on it.



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User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2605 times:

Well the NATO 707s come from GK where they fly support for the NATO E-3s -we had them here at Tinker for Noble Eagle. Last I knew they were painted gray and not white. If he said 707 and it had long TF-33 engines it wasn't an E-6 they have newer CFM-56s. We got rid of our TC-18s (707) which are going to god knows where (some still being made into E-8s). That could be what it was, or the NAVY has some contract tankers which i think are 707s. I know we get 707 tankers from other countries here at Tinker for depot work, I'll see what some friends say.

Ciao & Hook 'em Horns,
Lt-AWACS, Yankee Air Pirate


User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2598 times:

Yeah, this one looks pretty grew to me, I am at work, about three hundred feet from where it is parked.

But you never know, under the right night, that light gray might look white,



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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2598 times:

NXX almost never gets foreign traffic...only two occasions of us getting such planes that I can remember are for the airshow...we had a German Navy Dassault Atlantic and a Canadian Navy Sea King...thats about it...

Im still hoping that they reopen the observation area on Rt. 611...havent driven past in a while though...

Greg



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