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Air Combat Across The Taiwan Straight  
User currently offlinecelestar From Singapore, joined Jul 2001, 398 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8072 times:

I am looking for and could not find a good write-up on the numerous dogfight between Nationalist Taiwan Air Force against the Communist China Air Force across the Taiwan strait. Does anyone has any good reference?
Another question, how many versions of F-84 thunderchief did the Taiwan Air Force actually flew or used in operation?

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User currently offlineebj1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8039 times:

I believe they used the F-84G. I don't recall reading or seeing pictures indicating they got the F-84F. Their primary 50's air-to-air bird was the F-86F and these were, at some point in their service with Taiwan, equipped with Sidewinder missiles.


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User currently offlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3944 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 7873 times:

The F-84 Thunderjet was originally an escort fighter - and used as such in Korea - but it was a poor performer and all 'Thunder' jets were strike aircraft after that. The Thunderchief of course is the F-105.

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User currently onlinedlednicer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 544 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7794 times:
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For some reason, acig.org uses green text on a black background, which drives my eyes nuts, but here is a write-up:
http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_145.shtml


User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2131 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7737 times:

Quoting dlednicer (Reply 3):

Very good read. I had to copy the text over to a word editor in order not to screw up my eyes.

  

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User currently offlineebj1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7549 times:

Quoting ptrjong (Reply 2):
The F-84 Thunderjet was originally an escort fighter - and used as such in Korea - but it was a poor performer and all 'Thunder' jets were strike aircraft after that. The Thunderchief of course is the F-105.

I recall reading that the F-84 Thunderjet was used primarily as a fighter-bomber in Korea and was considered the best there was in the war zone. That's not to take anything away from the F-80 as it did a fine job, but the Thunderjet had longer legs, as I understand it, and carried an impressive load.



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User currently offlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3944 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7491 times:

Quoting ebj1248650 (Reply 5):

Yes, the Thunderjet had relatively long legs, and that's why SAC procured and used it as an escort fighter for the B-29. It was also used as a fighter-bomber in Korea.



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User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4768 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7465 times:
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They had 1 squadron of RF84F also.

User currently offlinecelestar From Singapore, joined Jul 2001, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6333 times:

Is there any real combat record for F84F model?
Seems that F84F is a vast difference to F84G, wing is different, the entire fuselarge is different? I recall seeing a photo of West German Air Force operating the F model.


User currently offlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3944 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6288 times:

Quoting celestar (Reply 8):
Is there any real combat record for F84F model?

Yes, with France in the Suez war of 1956, and with Turkey in the invasion of Northern Cyprus in 1974.

Quoting celestar (Reply 8):
Seems that F84F is a vast difference to F84G, wing is different, the entire fuselarge is different

Yes, the F-84F Thunderstreak is actually completely different aircraft from the Thunderjet. It was initially designated F-96. The change to F-84F was a trick to get funding.



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User currently offlinecelestar From Singapore, joined Jul 2001, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5921 times:

Quoting ptrjong (Reply 9):
Yes, with France in the Suez war of 1956, and with Turkey in the invasion of Northern Cyprus in 1974.

How does it perform in those war days? I think most of the spot light was occupied by F-86 Saber.
How does the F84F compared with the Saber F86?


User currently offlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3944 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5809 times:

There was little or no air combat. The F-84F again was an attack aircraft.


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