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Unmanned Gripen "E/F"..?  
User currently offlineSAS A340 From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 781 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7234 times:

SAAB has something more in mind it seems  .....

""The documents show that the aim of the study is "briefly describe the development of unmanned flying systems in 2030-perspective and ability to combine these with manned platforms". The unmanned plane to – like current Jas 39 Gripen — to switch between the fighter, attack and reconnaissance""

Sorry,link only in Swedish.
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/fordo..._motor/flygplan/article3519054.ece


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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4836 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7071 times:

IMHO, the limited commercial success of the Gripen must firmly be overcome first before venturing into the "optionally manned" or "unmanned" realm. A headlong attempt at it without convincing export victories of the conventionally piloted version could be seen as finding a market for the idle A/B fleet or worse, a brand-new "also-ran". And 2030's UAVs might take on smaller, more efficient platform configurations.

More productive I think, is this effort aimed at maximizing the gains from a country's investment in the Gripen...

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....e-xml/AW_08_13_2012_p38-484470.xml

Quote:
"Sweden's slow but determined entry onto the world fighter stage is taking another step forward. At the same time, Saab is talking more in public about networked air combat capabilities that rest on decades of experience, much of which was long kept secret.

Saab and the Swedish and South African air forces are moving to establish a new Fighter Weapons School at the SAAF's Overberg base, in the southern Cape area, to develop advanced combat skills within the growing world community of Gripen pilots. The first class is due to open in October 2013.

In announcing the FWS, the company discussed its concept of networked tactics for the new JAS 39E/F fighter. Ultimately, Overberg's expansive ranges could provide an ideal environment for this technology."



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User currently offlineebj1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6507 times:

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 1):
IMHO, the limited commercial success of the Gripen must firmly be overcome first before venturing into the "optionally manned" or "unmanned" realm.

SAAB did well exporting the J35 and it appears they've done even better exporting the J39. Their success could be called "limited" in the context of US sales of F-16s and Hornets, or F-5s and Phantom IIs, but in the context of sales of their own airplanes, they've done remarkably well.



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User currently offlineDevilfish From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4836 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6257 times:

Quoting ebj1248650 (Reply 2):
but in the context of sales of their own airplanes, they've done remarkably well.

Agreed...and it's bound to do better should the Swiss sale finally pushes through.....

http://www.defensenews.com/article/2...odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

Quote:
"Defense minister Ueli Maurer, who is in charge of the dossier, said that negotiations with Sweden were 'reaching their conclusion (and) will allow us to resolve any outstanding issues.'

The purchase price — 3.126 billion francs (2.69 (m)illion euros, $3.25 billion) — was guaranteed not to change, he said, adding that the Gripen 'was the cheapest' option compared with the French Dassault Rafale and the EADS Eurofighter."



They will only need to successfully manage the risks mentioned.



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User currently offlineAn225 From Israel, joined May 2005, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6105 times:

Quoting ebj1248650 (Reply 2):
but in the context of sales of their own airplanes, they've done remarkably well

According to Wikipedia this is not correct:

JAS 29: Total of 66 were exported, some of them on leasing. The Swedish Air Force accepted 204 frames
Saab 35: 125 exported with no leasing. The Swedish Air Force accepted more than 500 frames

According to this, if correct, the JAS 29 is not mosuccessful


User currently offlineSAS A340 From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 781 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6001 times:

Quoting ebj1248650 (Reply 2):
SAAB did well exporting the J35 and it appears they've done even better exporting the J39
Quoting An225 (Reply 4):
According to Wikipedia this is not correct:

Well,it depends how you look at it...
204 Gripens produced.....66 exported ,that's make it close to 30% of manufactured to 5 different customer (Swiss not included)
650 Draken (J35) and ..125 exported,that's make it close to 20% to 3 different customers

    



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User currently onlinethunderboltdrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 626 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5900 times:

Well finally, the Swedish government have decided to acquire 40-60 JAS 39 Gripen E/F.

http://www.gp.se/nyheter/sverige/1.1045260-sverige-koper-nya-super-jas



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User currently offlineSAS A340 From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 781 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5893 times:

Quoting thunderboltdrgn (Reply 6):
Well finally, the Swedish government have decided to acquire 40-60 JAS 39 Gripen E/F.


i would be more comfortable with 60-80  



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User currently onlinethunderboltdrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 626 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5773 times:

Quoting SAS A340 (Reply 7):
i would be more comfortable with 60-80

yeah and bunch of "A26s*" as well.  

*A26 Submarine that is.

[Edited 2012-08-25 13:39:52]


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User currently offlineolle From Sweden, joined Feb 2007, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5465 times:

Dont forget that most J35 wore sold to Finland after being used in the swdish airforce in what it seems secret contracts. But for relations with Soviet they were stored in Sweden in case of the war.

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