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C-5A Will Get Home In A Musuem!  
User currently offlineGalaxy5007 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 628 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6927 times:

It has been announced that C-5A 69-0014 will be the first C-5 to be retired to a musuem. The Air Mobility Command Museum at Dover AFB, DE is expected to receive 9014 from Memphis in March of 2013.

http://amcmuseum.org/events/#c5-inbound

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User currently offlineJohnM From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6878 times:

Ah very good. We will have a cann bird of last resort for night shift black ops parts. It could come in handy to keep legacy engine runs guys current also. Ok not a good idea, it would have to stay somewhat fixed and the museum would not want us playing with their "new" display....

User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6773 times:
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Perhaps they could use the C-5A to house smaller exhibits....good use of the space!!

User currently offlineebj1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6758 times:

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 2):
Perhaps they could use the C-5A to house smaller exhibits....good use of the space!!

Use the lower level for models of various MATS, MAC, and AMC aircraft, along with such things as flight suits, and examples of equipment that was carried. The upper deck could be for video presentations and, of course, to allow visitors to see the flight deck. Your idea is a very good one.



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User currently offlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4004 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6745 times:

I would much prefer to see this.

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Although I would rather have the models and uniforms inside than outside, blocking the aircraft.

In fact I would rather have this stuff nowhere near the aircraft, but I guess that's not entirely realistic.

[Edited 2012-08-28 04:32:08]


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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6382 times:

Wonder when the NMUSAF will get their C-5 ... it's only a matter of time. I can only imagine that they will end up parking the C-5 then building the hangar around it.


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5799 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 5):
Wonder when the NMUSAF will get their C-5 ... it's only a matter of time.

I don't think they have a KC-135A/D/E/Q/R/T model yet, either. They do have other versions of the C-135, though.


User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3589 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5693 times:
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Quoting JBo (Reply 5):
Wonder when the NMUSAF will get their C-5 ... it's only a matter of time. I can only imagine that they will end up parking the C-5 then building the hangar around it.

Knowing NMUSAF they will be looking for a frame with a story... Maybe one of the Operation Babylift airplanes, or one of the frames that did the Israeli airlift in '73....



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User currently offlinevzlet From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 839 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5590 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 6):
I don't think they have a KC-135A/D/E/Q/R/T model yet, either.

And that's perhaps the most surprising omission of all, as one could make a good case that the KC-135 has been the USAF's most indispensable aircraft for over 50 years. It shouldn't be too long before that's rectified:

http://www.airforcemuseum.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Building_4_Layout_Aircraft_labeled.jpg



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User currently offlineGalaxy5007 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5439 times:

The AMCM has a KC-135E, 57-1507, here on display. I was out working on it this past weekend. The C-5A will be parked behind the KC-135 and KC-97 from what I understand. We have been discussing ways to safe the jet and how to orient it for the public. It would appear that as of now, the cargo compartment will be open to the public, but the flight deck and troop compartment won't. We will probably have entrance(s) to the 7L and/or 7R doors near the back of the plane. There is talk of doing what we did for our C-141B and building a wheel chair accessible ramp for it as well, but that will have to wait until we get the money. The same goes for the paint job...when we get the money, the aircraft will be repainted in the original MAC color scheme with the Dover patches on the tail. In the interim, it would appear that the Memphis markings will remain on the jet, although maintainers from Dover have already kinda spoke out against it. The problem is, we can't put markings that were never on the aircraft, so our options are a little limited. It never wore Dover markings as it left Dover in 1977. In the current color scheme, it has worn Altus, Travis, Lackland and Memphis on it. Travis markings (the old Gold tail) would make sense because it was an AMC jet...however, even I think that would be a slap in the face to the Dover guys having a Travis tail sitting at the museum. I've proposed the idea of just removing the markings and leaving it blank, but haven't gotten alot of feedback concerning that idea.

From what we understand, the NMUSAF was supposed to get 9014, but they said they wouldn't be ready for it when 9014 would be ready to retire. So they will get a C-5, it is just a matter of when and what jet.


User currently offlineIRISH251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 982 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5201 times:

Quoting Galaxy5007 (Reply 9):
The problem is, we can't put markings that were never on the aircraft, so our options are a little limited. It never wore Dover markings as it left Dover in 1977. In the current color scheme, it has worn Altus, Travis, Lackland and Memphis on it. Travis markings (the old Gold tail) would make sense because it was an AMC jet...however, even I think that would be a slap in the face to the Dover guys having a Travis tail sitting at the museum. I've proposed the idea of just removing the markings and leaving it blank, but haven't gotten alot of feedback concerning that idea.

Given that the Dover museum is the AMC Museum as well as covering the history of the base itself, surely it is appropriate that other transport bases get a look in?  


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5183 times:

Quoting vzlet (Reply 8):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 6):I don't think they have a KC-135A/D/E/Q/R/T model yet, either.
And that's perhaps the most surprising omission of all, as one could make a good case that the KC-135 has been the USAF's most indispensable aircraft for over 50 years.
Quoting Galaxy5007 (Reply 9):
The AMCM has a KC-135E, 57-1507, here on display. I was out working on it this past weekend.

yes, there are several KC-135s in musums. But that's not the same as having an example in the NMUSAF.

BTW, Galaxy5007, what kind of work were you doing on 1507?


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5140 times:

BYW, the SAC Museum doesn't have a KC-135 either. They do have an EC-135C Looking Glass that has a Boom, but its primary mission was as an Airborne SAC Command Post and back-up to the SAC HQ underground CP. The SAC KC-135's primary mission was to refuel the SAC Bomber Force on its way to a nuclear war.

SAC won the Cold War on the back of the KC-135, not the B-52 or FB-111.


User currently offlineGalaxy5007 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5123 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 11):
BTW, Galaxy5007, what kind of work were you doing on 1507

We were installing a gate to the cargo door so we could have it opened up for visitors via the air stairs.


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