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Presedential Planes Flying Into Springfield (kspi)

phatalbert From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 111 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2955 times:

Sitting here at the park have seen 4-5 blue bottom and nose with white upper 2 tone. I couldnt read anything on it because it was the high part of final. They seem to be possibly 757 and a 737 maybe? Anyone have info on this? I am unaware of any political event happening here. I have not heard or seen them takeoff. Any info appreciated.

**Isaac**

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phatalbert From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 111 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2916 times:

Correction "c-32" instead of a 757

... i followed up by going by the airport about an hour after seeing the last one land and i did not find a one... maybe a stop for some fuel? But why wouldnt they just call Scott AFB to supply a tanker in air? I dont know

**Isaac**

dragon6172 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2899 times:

Quoting phatalbert (Reply 1):
But why wouldnt they just call Scott AFB to supply a tanker in air?

Tankers in the air are worthless if the plane requiring fuel has no way of receiving fuel in the air.

Phrogs Phorever

phatalbert From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 111 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2870 times:

Your saying those presidential planes dont have refuel nozzles on them? I know the 747 VC-25 i think accepts air to air refuel.. none of the other do?

**Isaac**

checksixx From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 996 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

Quoting phatalbert (Reply 3):
Your saying those presidential planes dont have refuel nozzles on them? I know the 747 VC-25 i think accepts air to air refuel.. none of the other do?

The C-32A's do not...just the couple of C32B's, but those are not part of the presidential/VIP fleet. E-4's of course do have the capability.

KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11708 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2583 times:

The B-737 may have been a C-40B, which cannot air refuel either.

moose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2009 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (7 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

Quoting phatalbert (Reply 3):
Your saying those presidential planes dont have refuel nozzles on them? I know the 747 VC-25 i think accepts air to air refuel.. none of the other do?

As Checksixx and TopBoom said, the C-32s and C-40s in the VIP fleet are not air refuel-able, but beyond that, they have never done an in-flight refueling of the VC-25 with POTUS on board. Although it is a daily occurrence, and the Air Force has decades of air refueling experience, there are risks involved, which you don't want when you have the President on board.

KC-135 - Passing gas and taking names!

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