MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10359 posts, RR: 40 Posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8556 times:
I've been following Felix Baumgartner and Red Bull Stratos for a while yet. I am a big time fan and supporter!
Today will be his day. I hope all will go well during ascent and the jump.
What he is doing here is truly incredible... simply beyond words...
Austrian Felix Baumgartner set for skydive record attempt
The Austrian skydiver Felix Baumgartner will attempt to become the first human to break the sound barrier unaided by a vehicle.
He is going to jump out of a balloon at more than 120,000ft (36.5km) above Roswell, New Mexico.
In the near vacuum at that altitude, he should accelerate beyond about 690mph (1,110km/h) within 40 seconds.
Assuming all goes well, he will open a parachute near the ground to land softly in the local desert.
The only difference - apart from Baumgartner's vastly superior equipment - is the fact that Kittinger's jump is not an officially recognized world record.
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10359 posts, RR: 40 Reply 2, posted (8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8542 times:
Quoting TripleDelta (Reply 1): This has already been done - with slightly lower parameters - in 1960 by Joseph Kittinger during Project Excelsior
Kittinger is one most essential part of the Felix Baumgartner Red Bull Stratos team.
I greatly admire the man, considering the fact that his equipment was much less sophisticated than the equipment made available to Felix Baumgartner and there was much risk to his attempt at the time.
I hope today will go well for Felix Baumgartner. What he is doing is truly incredible and beyond words, not talking about danger - I hope his mission will be a 100% success.
There will be a live feed of the whole mission (with a 20 seconds time lap) on the Red Bull Stratos page linked above.
Hope for the better.
Go Felix Baumgartner!
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10359 posts, RR: 40 Reply 10, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8277 times:
This balloon is now useless. The commentator says it cannot be reused. There is another spare balloon on site.
Also they had a problem with one of the on board radios in the capsule that was not working properly.
I took a screenshot
Felix Baumgartner in his capsule when they announced launch abort.
Launch called off due to wind gusts.
Well, that is anticlimactic. Once they started inflating the balloon it began to be whipped in the wind and it became apparent that full inflation would be impossible.
"Whoa, gusty winds are taking that balloon down now," said the Red Bull announcer. "That's going to be a problem. There's the decision. Abort the attempt.
"May or may not be tomorrow" -commentator.
"That's the decision. This is going to be off for today. ... They had the window for a short while. But the winds are a huge concern."
[Edited 2012-10-09 11:17:11]
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
EagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1635 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7925 times:
Quoting klemmi85 (Reply 4): Does he jump from that height because the atmosphere provides very little drag so he can actually accelerate enough?
Yeah. I'm a bit hazy on the physics but he will be so high that there will be no atmosphere to create drag. He will keep accelerating for the first min or two, this is the point when he should exceed the speed of sound. After that the atmosphere will slow him down until he opens the chute at 5K feet.
TripleDelta From Croatia, joined Jul 2004, 1053 posts, RR: 7 Reply 13, posted (8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7925 times:
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Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 12): Yeah. I'm a bit hazy on the physics but he will be so high that there will be no atmosphere to create drag.
A side effect is also that it is easier to break the sound barrier at that altitude. The speed of sound is function of temperature and drops as the temperature drops. For example, at sea level in standard conditions - 15 degrees Centigrade - the speed of sound is about 661 knots/761 mph; at 120,000 ft - where the temp is about -40 Centigrade - it drops to 611 knots/703 mph.
EDIT: at 36,000 ft - where the tropopause starts on average - the temperature is even lower, -56 Centigrade in standard conditions, giving a speed of sound of "just" 589 knots, or 678 mph .
Semaex From Germany, joined Nov 2009, 773 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7454 times:
Watching the live action on ServusTV, he just passed 62,000ft at -60°C, breathing 100% oxygen. The so-called "Armstrong Line" is going to be crossed soon, an altitude at which man's bodily fluids would start to boil without adequate safety measures.
Live feed clearly shows the curvature of the earth, cam setup is very high quality, I hope the jump will be just as impressively filmed as the launch.
All the best to Felix! This is a big achievement to all of humankind!
// You know you're an aviation enthusiast when you look at your neighbour's cars and think about fleet commonality.
I captured screenshots during ascent and jump/freefall/landing.
I will post them on this thread later.
What a day!
World's Highest Skydive! Daredevil Makes Record-Breaking Supersonic Jump
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Unofficial results of the jump showed Baumgartner spent about 4 minutes and 22 seconds in freefall, a bit short of the longest freefall record, but that he had a speed of about 700 mph, which would clinch the supersonic milestone, Red Bull Stratos officials said.
rwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2258 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (8 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7141 times:
Chuck Yeager first went supersonic in the X-1 on the same day in 1947.
[Edited 2012-10-14 12:56:24]
[Edited 2012-10-14 12:57:18]
The early bird gets the worm, BUT...the second mouse gets the cheese!
25 MadameConcorde: Skydiver Felix Baumgartner lands highest ever jump Highlights from Felix Baumgartner's leap into the record books (with video) http://www.bbc.co.uk/ne
26 zeke: Pitty this is in the wrong forum, it was civil av. If you do not believe me, look at the FAA written on the back of the second person to get out of th
28 flyingturtle: When he landed, I remembered the "Wile E. Coyote & Roadrunner" episodes. I expected him to land upon a cactus... What? David
29 JeffSFO: I think he was talking about the press conference.
30 fridgmus: Congratulations to Felix and the Redbull STRATOS Team! Felix Baumgartner has now joined the fraternity of men and women who have "Pushed the Envelope"
32 queb: Officials numbers, videos and pics here : https://www.redbullcontentpool.com/content/stratos/products/red_bull_stratos_mission_accomplished;jsessionid
33 9VSIO: Wasn't he from the FAI, and not the FAA?
34 crownvic: What happens to the balloon and capsule???
35 BlueElephant: Not sure what happened to the Balloon - the Capsule itself came down shortly after Felix - with much more data!
36 crownvic: Can you explain further?? How did it come down..?.?
37 garnetpalmetto: The capsule was designed to detach from the balloon and then deploy a parachute so it could be recovered.
38 KBJCpilot: The capsule landed under a parachute approximately 20 minutes after Felix touched down. I'm unsure of the disposition of the balloon, however.
39 rlwynn: One thing I do not find correct is that he will not get a record for the highest balloon flight because the rules are that you must come back down to
40 zeke: I think you are right NAA/FAI. 40 km up is also a long way from space, depending on where you are from, they define it at 80 to 100 km.
41 autothrust: Really i cannot understand all this hype. Nobody cared when Kittinger did the same and achieved 990km/h with 60's technology. Besides i cannot express
42 9VSIO: The wonders of youtube and Red Bull, I'm afraid. No one cared when air races were on, till Red Bull brought them right into the middle of a city...
43 MadameConcorde: There was no hype. No mainstream media (BBC CNN etc.) had any live cast coverage of Baumgartner's free fall speed record. None of them. It was all on
44 autothrust: I think we have different definitions what a hero is. A fanatic base jumper which makes stunts for his ego or a company marketing belongs not what i
46 TJCAB: Oh thank you for saying that. My thoughts exactly. The term is miss-used terribly. While it was interesting to see and all, I find the whole thing co
47 flyingturtle: I agree with you. What I really enjoyed, though, was the imagery relayed by the capsule. In my book, a hero is somebody who has defied real dangers t
48 windy95: I have to agree with oyu on this point. What Kittinger did was way beyond yesterdays jump. Kittenger was also an accomplished Air Force test pilot wi
49 tugger: While I wouldn't call him a hero for this, what he has done has brought "space" (yes, I know it's not really space that he jumped from, that is why h
50 md80fanatic: I think the most amazing thing about it all is that we finally had another civilian high enough, and carrying a dozen cameras, to see space in all it'
51 BlueElephant: For those of you commenting that the man didn't do anything but a stunt. I would suggest you do some research before posting. Felix was wearing a nex
52 flyingturtle: 1:350 scale of the whole exercise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFU774q6eVM David[Edited 2012-10-15 12:31:17]
53 MadameConcorde: wow great find! just amazing! I never thought they would come up with a Lego version!
54 autothrust: 61km away from the edge of space. Agree fully with this. The difference : the risk was much higher for Kittinger then for Felix who jumped relaying o
55 flyingturtle: Hmmm, if you stress the point of making a sacrifice, then it's not heroism anymore. Heroism is all about having much more balls than brains. But that
56 flyingwaeldar: Would you've been happier if there were NASA or USAF logos all over instead of Red Bull? At least this was sponsored by a private company and no tax
57 autothrust: There are thousends of people which would have done such a jump. In what way does being stupid or risk friendly (for his ego or kick)make a hero of o
58 MadameConcorde: If I was him, I would want to bloody stay up there! I would just look down whilst shaking my head and thinking 'what an insane world!'!
59 garnetpalmetto: And Kittinger's jump relied on data from Operation High Dive and Project Manhigh. Really though, does the fact that a mission is a logical, evolution
60 autothrust: What's your point, it was Kittinger which jumped first in the project Manhigh. So Kittinger relied on data of his previous mission? Of course not. Yo
61 garnetpalmetto: Actually there were no jumps in Manhigh, just an ascent, only one of which was done by Kittinger. My point is, that at the end of the day, many thing
62 MadameConcorde: Depending what kind of high you are talking about. High finances also qualifies some to be astronauts that would never be selected otherwise. Singer
63 autothrust: Agree, however i disagree with: Which accomplishments?????? Jumping out of a ballon, that's not what i would call an accomplishment. The comparison w
64 neutrino: So by taking your definition to its logical conclusion, a not insignificant number of the fine men and women who have rocketed into space are not "re
65 Semaex: One question: Did he start tumbling after he hit the sound barrier or why was that so? The initial part of the jump seemed very stable, only in the in
66 MadameConcorde: I remember Thomas Reiter very well from his missions. One of the finest ESA astronauts. I followed his launch and his time on board the ISS. http://w
67 9VSIO: Sure it could have been tested. Just the question of funding. Didn't he also fly across the channel on a wing? I think that at the end of the day, he
68 Geezer: I think if you were to ask a thousand people what a "hero" is, you would doubtless hear a thousand DIFFERENT answers; all of which points to a simple
69 neutrino: ....and Genghis Khan was a hero to his Mongol people & nation but an evil slaughterer to his enemies & the conquered.
70 MadameConcorde: There was a noticeable difference on how Felix Baumgartner could not control his position during the supersonic phase of free fall when he was totally
71 MadameConcorde: From Red Bull Stratos: Please vote Felix Baumgartner TIME's Person of the Year 2012 Enter your vote here: http://win.gs/SsHflQ I think he really deser
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