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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4162 times:

India, Russia launch delayed Medium Transport Aircraft.
http://www.flightglobal.com/

Few questions:
How much does it cost to develop an MTA?
Are the expected orders of 200 enough to cover the cost?
How does this MTA compare to Embraer KC-390 in capabilty?

Quote:
"A long and complex preparatory phase in every sense has been completed for the project, which involves joint financing and workshare, and creation from scratch of a new plane for the air forces of both nations," says United Aircraft. A large group of Indian aerospace engineers will arrive in Moscow in the near future to start work on the programme, it adds.

The MTA will be a twin-engined transport with a maximum take-off weight of 65t, including an 18-20t payload, a 30m (98ft) wingspan, and a top speed of 434kt (800km/h). The aircraft is designed to replace the Antonov An-32 and Hawker Siddeley HS 748 in Indian service, and the An-26 and An-30 for Russia.

Earlier this year, United Aircraft president Mikhail Pogosyan told Flightglobal he expects New Delhi to eventually acquire 45 of the new type, with Moscow to order 100 and export customers to take up to another 60.

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User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4150 times:

Isn't 18-20 tons a much bigger payload than the An-26 family? The article doesn't say if it's metric tons or US tons but that sounds more in the range of the C-130. Likewise the MTOW looks to be much higher as well. I suppose that if you're replacing a cargo type, than more payload and MTOW is the whole point, but this seems to be quite a bit more for something that would be doing the same job. I don't follow this stuff much though so maybe someone else could clarify?

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3980 times:

The C-130J has a payload of 42,000 lbs, or 21 tons, and a MTOW of 175,000 lbs. Since the MTA will be a joint Russian/Indian airlifter my guess is the payload will be 20 tonnes, which is about 44,800 lbs, with a MTOW about 145,600 lbs. (based on the reported 65 tonne MTOW). Compared to the KC-390 the MTA will carry a lighter payload as the KC-390 is suppose to carry 52,000 lbs, or 26 tons, a MTOW of 178,600 lbs. The KC-390 has a max range with max payload of 1400 nm, the C-130J has a max range at max payload of about 2100 nm.

User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3856 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
Few questions:
How much does it cost to develop an MTA?
Are the expected orders of 200 enough to cover the cost?
How does this MTA compare to Embraer KC-390 in capabilty?

As per wikipedia, MTA will cost around $600 million to develop and unit cost is expected to be around $35 to $40 million. So the JV must expect to sell more than 200 to cover development cost or the unit price will have to higher if expected total sales are around 200 only.

KC-390 is expected to cost $1.5 billion to develop with an expected unit price of $50 million. However, KC-390 is a more capable aircraft as detailed in reply #2 above.


User currently offlinesturmovik From India, joined May 2007, 509 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3801 times:

About time they got a move on with this program.. I've been seeing little models of it at at least two previous Aero India shows.

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 3):
As per wikipedia, MTA will cost around $600 million to develop and unit cost is expected to be around $35 to $40 million.

Wiki isn't the best of sources, and you can bet your shirt that those figures will inflate, at least 50% above what has been stated. It's par for the course for Indian defense projects to run wayy over budget (and even more on time), and it's often difficult to get reliable financial information on Russian projects. One can only imagine what an Indo-Russian project would look like.. 
Speaking of.. anyone know any good sources for info on the Brahmos missile project? (how many bought by each side, how many in service, company performance etc?)



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