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An-225 No. 2 To Be Completed  
User currently offlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 7365 posts, RR: 5
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7333 times:

It doesn't look like anyone has posted this but the second aircraft is to be completed, it appears that the customer is the Russian Airforce, in the linked article it speculates about additional frames.

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/bmpd/38024980/338602/338602_original.jpg

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User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7345 times:

Hoepfully this is the case but, being a cynic, we'll have to see, it's been sittign there half built for about 15 years now.

User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2442 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7344 times:

Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 1):

I hear ya. Working in this industry for this long, I'll believe it when I see it. Hope it works out though.



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User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1823 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7344 times:

When the last C17 rolls off FAL, is there any other heavy air transport being made now? No forget the A400M, I said heavy transport. There must come a time when C5,AN124 and C17s are getting so worn and expensive to maintain that a new air lifter makes sense, but who would step up to the plate? Up 150t like the AN124 manages would be a goal.

User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2982 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7346 times:

I'll believe that when I see it. Haven't we heard musings about this more than once in the recent past?


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User currently offlineKC135Hydraulics From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7344 times:

What possible use would the Russian Air Force have for this? They've got fleets of IL-76s and plenty of AN-124s already. I suspect, if this is true, that it's more for prestige than for operational necessity.

User currently offlinerwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2351 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7344 times:
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Quoting sweair (Reply 3):
When the last C17 rolls off FAL, is there any other heavy air transport being made now? No forget the A400M, I said heavy transport. There must come a time when C5,AN124 and C17s are getting so worn and expensive to maintain that a new air lifter makes sense, but who would step up to the plate? Up 150t like the AN124 manages would be a goal.

There is supposedly a plan to manufacture an updated An-124. Of course that's happened a couple of time before, but without result.

But I'm sure Boeing, Antonov or Airbus would be perfectly capable of building the next big military airlifter 20 years from now when all the C-17s start wearing out.


User currently offlinesovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7344 times:
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Quoting KC135Hydraulics (Reply 5):
plenty of AN-124s already.

About 20. Of which 5 are airworthy and half the others haven't flown in over 10-15 years. Maybe they decided that buying a new An-225 is better than refurbishing some older 124s...


User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7344 times:

Don't forget the Russian AF recently signed a contract for 39 IL-476s, which is an updated IL-76. Not quite a strategic lifter, but still this gives a boost to overall lift.


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User currently offlineKC135Hydraulics From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7344 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 8):
Don't forget the Russian AF recently signed a contract for 39 IL-476s, which is an updated IL-76. Not quite a strategic lifter, but still this gives a boost to overall lift.

I was reading some stats on the IL-76D-90.. seems like a half-way decent plane. The only thing that looks to be limiting its usefulness is the narrow fuselage. Very C-141-esqe. There doesn't seem to be a suitable middle-ground between the IL-76 and AN-124 (like the C-17 in comparison to the old C-141 and the C-5).


User currently offlinesovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7344 times:
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Quoting KC135Hydraulics (Reply 9):
like the C-17 in comparison to the old C-141 and the C-5).

The An-22 fills that in a way however there's not nearly enough of them in service...


User currently offlineSSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 706 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7344 times:

Just because this is the most recent thread where the C-17 was mentioned, here's some cool C-17 action, that only a military transport could provide:
http://www.king5.com/news/JBLM-to-help-out-on-Sandy-176893941.html

Indeed there won't be too many new planes you can drive a bucket truck onto.


User currently offlineXT6Wagon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 3409 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7346 times:

can it be completed? It looks like its currently made from corrosion thanks to improper storage.

User currently offlineKC135Hydraulics From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7343 times:

Actually it looks to be in halfway decent shape. That's nothing some surface treatment and paint couldn't fix.

User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1361 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7342 times:

Quoting KC135Hydraulics (Reply 13):

That's what I was thinking too. Looks like there's a lot archeology that's going to need to happen to clean that up, but overall, I think it's quite workable. What really says all that to me is the fact that there are few if any subassy's fixed to that frame. It really is just a hulk at this point, which to me, means that it should be very useful conducive to further assembly.



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User currently onlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7342 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 8):
Don't forget the Russian AF recently signed a contract for 39 IL-476s, which is an updated IL-76. Not quite a strategic lifter, but still this gives a boost to overall lift.

Is this a similar set up to the Il-76TD-90 that Volga-Dnepr and Silk Way use, or a stretched model like the Il-76MF that has been sold to Jordan (right?) or is it something else entirely?


User currently offlineKC135Hydraulics From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7342 times:

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 15):
Is this a similar set up to the Il-76TD-90 that Volga-Dnepr and Silk Way use, or a stretched model like the Il-76MF that has been sold to Jordan (right?) or is it something else entirely?

I think its like the TD-90 but with modern avionics and probably a reduced crew requirement as a result.


User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7342 times:

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 15):
Is this a similar set up to the Il-76TD-90 that Volga-Dnepr and Silk Way use, or a stretched model like the Il-76MF that has been sold to Jordan (right?) or is it something else entirely?
Quoting KC135Hydraulics (Reply 16):
I think its like the TD-90 but with modern avionics and probably a reduced crew requirement as a result.

My understanding as well. Gone are the steam-powered flight instruments and in is the glass cockpit. Probably most flights can/will be done with 2 cockpit crew and a loadmaster. Longer-ranged flights will likely take a 3rd cockpit crew and an additional loadmaster/mechanic.

I believe PS90 engines will be used - are these OK in the West for Stage 3 compliance ?



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User currently onlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7342 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 17):
I believe PS90 engines will be used - are these OK in the West for Stage 3 compliance ?

Not sure, but Volga-Dnepr brought a PS90 Il-76 into LAX a couple years back so I think they're better than whatever used to be hung underneath them at least, and the engine is used on the Tu-204 and Il-96 which operate into Europe on an occasional basis IIRC.


User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2442 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7341 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 17):
Quoting Newark727 (Reply 18):

Just throwing it out there, but would they investigate the possibility of putting on fewer, more powerful engines?



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User currently offlineWB556 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2011, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7341 times:

Just ask Transaero to add a few 'spare' engines to their a-380 order. Sling 6 of those under the wings and that would be an impressive machine.

User currently offlineLimaNiner From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7341 times:

Quoting KC135Hydraulics (Reply 5):
What possible use would the Russian Air Force have for this?

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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6628 times:

Does it really make sense after so many years....


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