US Navy reports that it has no unaccounted UAS in the region.
Video shows a ScanEagle in pretty good condition for either crash landing or shot down, maybe this just a prop? Whilst the US would obviously deny any airspace infringement, they did claim the RQ-170 that surfaced in Iran a year ago - attributing it to technical difficulties close to the border.
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11742 posts, RR: 51 Reply 1, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3736 times:
It doesn't mean this is a USN drone. The UAE operates some, too.
bikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1628 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3672 times:
[i]"Rear Adm Fadavi said that "such drones are usually launched from large warships".[/]
He should really double check his talking points. The Scan Eagle was designed to operate from fishing trawlers and can be launched and captured from a small trailer towed by a good size truck.
What if... the US have put a virus in the software of this drone. As soon as Iran plugs it into their computers to see the latest technology.... kaboom! Their systems all get bugged!
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2744 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3615 times:
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3): What if... the US have put a virus in the software of this drone. As soon as Iran plugs it into their computers to see the latest technology.... kaboom! Their systems all get bugged!
Trojan horse!
They'd get plenty of information if the drone was still transmitting during recovery efforts.
GST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 927 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3554 times:
Quoting bikerthai (Reply 2):
He should really double check his talking points. The Scan Eagle was designed to operate from fishing trawlers and can be launched and captured from a small trailer towed by a good size truck.
Precisely. There are numerous civillian Scan Eagles in use in the world. What is to stop Iran (probably using a puppet corporation) buying one second hand, painting it low viz grey with some stars on it and calling it a captured down US drone? The pictures I have seen don't show any obvious damage, but there is no reason the Iranians couldn't have orchestrated a forced landing to make it look even better for the cameras.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14410 posts, RR: 26 Reply 7, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3551 times:
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3): What if... the US have put a virus in the software of this drone. As soon as Iran plugs it into their computers to see the latest technology.... kaboom! Their systems all get bugged!
Been there, done that. Getting it there just took a flash drive and/or laptop apparently.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
bikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1628 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3509 times:
Quoting GST (Reply 6): What is to stop Iran (probably using a puppet corporation) buying one second hand
Although the Scan Eagle are used for Civil applications, the usage and control of which is tightly controlled by Boeing. So it is un-likely that Iran could get their hands on a copy, or even drawings.
Now if you said China or Russia provided them with the blue prints stolen from Boeing, then that is more plausible.
At it's heart, the Scan Eagle should have much highly sensitive hardware on it - other than perhaps any encryption devices that protect the communication link with the operator.
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10347 posts, RR: 40 Reply 9, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3440 times:
This is now denied by the US
US Navy says no drones missing in Middle East after Iran claims it has captured one
EHRAN, Iran – A U.S. Navy spokesman is discrediting Iran's claim Tehran captured a U.S. drone, saying no drones are missing in the Middle East.
The spokesman tells Fox News all U.S. drones have been accounted for in the area. Iran's state TV claimed Tuesday the country had captured a drone it says entered its airspace over the Persian Gulf.
The UAE and Iran are long time business partners and rather on friendly terms. I don't see why Iran would have knocked down or captured a UAE drone and I don't see why a UAE drone would go flying over Iran territorial waters/ground.
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
jetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2053 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3421 times:
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No offense to Iran but even if they did shoot it down, this isn't a huge thing IMO. When I heard drone down I figured it would be a predator or a global hawk. A ScanEagle? C'mon, It's sophisticated and all but I can't figure there is a ton of sensitive information in a $100,000 drone.
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BigJKU From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 728 posts, RR: 11 Reply 11, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3406 times:
Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 10): No offense to Iran but even if they did shoot it down, this isn't a huge thing IMO. When I heard drone down I figured it would be a predator or a global hawk. A ScanEagle? C'mon, It's sophisticated and all but I can't figure there is a ton of sensitive information in a $100,000 drone.
The ScanEagle, on a spectrum from GlobalHawk down to Model Airplane, falls a lot closer to the model airplane end.
yyzala From Canada, joined Nov 2009, 152 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (6 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3271 times:
This is why there will never be a drone fighter jet. Spoofing or jamming the signal is not rocket science. With Russians more than likely behind this, more drones will be lost.
bikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1628 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (6 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3115 times:
Quoting yyzala (Reply 13): With Russians more than likely behind this, more drones will be lost.
I was surprised that the Navy said that they already lost several Scan Eagle in the see (although none recently).
I guess that the benefit of using "inexpensive" drones, you can afford to lose them.
From the Wall Street Journal:
More than 1,600 have been sold to governments for defense operations and for civilian applications—including helping commercial fishing vessels locate schools of fish—according to Insitu Inc."
I am also surprised they built and sold that many!!! So, in theory, it may be easier to get your hands on one than I thouth.
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