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Air Force Museum Plane Held Fuel For 4 Decades

fsnuffer From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 229 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5374 times:

Interesting story

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...r-force-museum-to-be-checke/nTYmR/

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KC135Hydraulics From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5369 times:

I think it's interesting that the fuel sat in those tanks for 40 years without leaking. We have KC-135s that come fresh out of fuel cell for fuel tank and bladder repairs that immediately start leaking after 1 flight!

boeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 992 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5293 times:

This is not the first time this has happened, I read an article a couple of years ago about the B-58 having a fuel leak and they found it still had fuel on it after sitting in the museum for 30 years.

David

Never under-estimate the predictably of stupidty

rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6140 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5165 times:

Some of the older aircraft on display were probably never checked to ensure the tanks were completely trained.

According to the article - this plane went on display in 1968. Who knows what they did to prepare it back then.

L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29349 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5086 times:

Our local museum just four out that a service truck that was donated five or six years ago still had two hundred gallons of 120 weight of engine oil on it!

OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.

L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29349 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5082 times:

Actually wha really surprises me is that after fourth fourth years the fuel hadn't evaporated out of the vents.

a1d's burned avgas that that out in the open usually evaporates pretty quickly

OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.

nomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5048 times:

There's still a sheen coming off the Arizona after 71 years.

[Edited 2012-12-22 09:36:49]

Andy Goetsch

Galaxy5007 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4974 times:

The Pentagon had the knee jerk reaction to have all museums check all fuel tanks on all aircraft to make sure they are empty as a result of this.

The C-5 may be a FRED, but once you learn the ins and outs of it, the C-5 Galaxy is a awesome plane!

L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29349 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4919 times:

When has the pentagon done anything like this that hasn't been a knee jerk reaction.

Oil companies also have similar overeactions. I worked for one that decided to ban all knives from work when somebody in Their AV department sliced the thumb open on an exact knife in a desk drawer.

OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.

flightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 406 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4918 times:

The Museum I volunteer at recently got an F-4C phantom from Wright due to this issue in an indirect way.

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There was a significant amount of F-4s at Wright Pat that were due for scrapping. Dueing the process, they got to one plane and started cutting through the wing to find that it was never drained of fuel. So they immediately began checking all the other aircraft and when they got to ours, they discovered there was no paperwork or records of this plane being on the field with a squad. The wanted it off the property and thats how we got it.

Instrument Rated: Single/Multi Engine

MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13329 posts, RR: 64
Reply 10, posted (4 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4750 times:

Actually bladder tanks either need to be filled with fuel or sprayed on the inside with a special preservation oil when in empty storage. Else the rubber will dry out and become porous. We had this issue when we restored our T-33.

Jan

francoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3195 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4374 times:

Quoting Galaxy5007 (Reply 7):
The Pentagon had the knee jerk reaction to have all museums check all fuel tanks on all aircraft to make sure they are empty as a result of this.

Not sure they had to.
I'd have gone and checked myself if I was a museum owner.

I wouldn't mind stumbling upon a few dozen gallons of free Jet A just lying lying around for the old diesel beater...

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...

Galaxy5007 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3612 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 11):
Not sure they had to.

No, we did. I volunteer at the AMC museum, and we had to check all of the planes...even the ones that were brought here in pieces and assembled here.

The C-5 may be a FRED, but once you learn the ins and outs of it, the C-5 Galaxy is a awesome plane!

n901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

Thanks for the link to the story. A lead I use to work for was sent with a team to recovered that A-1E when he was in the USAF at NKP to get that Aircraft to the USAF Museum. He said it was a wreck, and had been stripped for parts. I sent him the story.

trex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 3963 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

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Quoting KC135Hydraulics (Reply 1):
We have KC-135s that come fresh out of fuel cell for fuel tank and bladder repairs that immediately start leaking after 1 flight!

Thats because the A1 is a Douglas and not a Boeing!!

As my bro who worked for MDC said, they make planes in Seattle like Detroit makes cars!!

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