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SAM-2 (S-75) Rocket Engine Manuals Wanted  
User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14127 posts, RR: 62
Posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4970 times:

Hello,

Today I went crazy at an aviation fleamarket and bought a second stage liquid fuel rocket engine of a SAM-2 (Soviet designation: S-75) anti-aircraft missile.
If I get even more crazy I might want to build a test stand and actually run it for fun.
I´m lookning for manuals, drawings and specifications for this engine, if possible in a language I understand, this means English, German, Spanish or French.
I would first need to find out which actual subtype it is and everything about maintenance, control and running it.
So far I know that it ran on a hypergolic mix of red fuming nitric acid and a kerosene type fuel.
The designation of the engine is Isayev S2.711, which existed in several subvariants.

Thanks,

Jan

[Edited 2013-04-20 12:33:11]

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User currently offlineGST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 938 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4937 times:

I have no idea about the answer to your query, but please feel free to point me in the direction of places where aviation flea markets exist that include rocket engines!

User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14127 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4926 times:

Today at Speyer Technical Museum in Germany. You´ll recognise it from far away due to the LH Boeing 747 on stilts in it´s yard.
I also bought a WW2 RAF navigator´s bubble sextant. I´ll clean it up and get it working again.

Jan


User currently offlineGST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 938 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4778 times:

Beautiful. I take it the 747 was not for sale in the flea market?

User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7965 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4728 times:

That's crazy! A rocket engine at a flea market!

Imagine some guy has a rocket engine at home, wonders what to do with it and thinks that he could try selling it in a flea market. And than Jan comes by and actually buys that thing.

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 2):
I also bought a WW2 RAF navigator´s bubble sextant. I´ll clean it up and get it working again.


What? No improvements? What's with that gyro-stabilized M3 sleeve clamp that connects the outer two club heads with the micrometer drum? Wasn't that always a bit unreliable?
And here I was thinking you're a bona-fide engineer!  

[Edited 2013-04-21 08:49:46]


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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14127 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4702 times:

Here is a picture of this engine (complete with turbo pump) in my living room:


Mind: It is as tall as the hi-hat in the background. 

Jan


User currently offlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2450 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4654 times:

Now... what are you going to do with it?

Roasting chicken? 



But... kudos to your acquisition!


David



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7965 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4630 times:

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 6):
Now... what are you going to do with it?

Sell it in a flea market. 



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14127 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4622 times:

Check this site:
www.copenhagensuborbitals.com

As colleague of mine had bought a jet engine of a Czech L-29 jet trainer a few months ago. He wants to build a mobile test stand and run it in his driveway in a village in the Eifel hills... . We were joking that he had the strongest leaf blower in the county.
He is a jet engine mechanic by trade.

I got hooked on space travel ever since I watched the moonlandings live as a boy.

Jan


User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12839 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4537 times:

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 6):
Now... what are you going to do with it?

Roasting chicken?

Looks like it would make one hell of an espresso machine!

Quoting flyingturtle (Reply 6):
But... kudos to your acquisition!

  



Inspiration, move me brightly!
User currently offlinerwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2391 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4296 times:
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Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 5):
Here is a picture of this engine (complete with turbo pump) in my living room:

I take it you're not married?   


User currently offlineOlegShv From Sweden, joined Mar 2006, 683 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4128 times:

Hi Jan,

I suggest that you contact the manufacturer directly   Here is a link to their website:

http://npofakel.ru

Some info about their products: (in Russian and English)

http://npofakel.ru/media/Raket_Fakela.pdf

If you are going to be in SVO, they are only a few kilometers away in the town of Khimki: ulitsa Akademika Grushina, 33, Khimki, Moskovskaya oblast', Russia


User currently offlineMD11Bob From Germany, joined Mar 2010, 115 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4091 times:

Reminds me of the guy which runs a L-1011 engine in his backyard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM7ksfRVF70


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14127 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4037 times:

Quoting OlegShv (Reply 11):
Hi Jan,

I suggest that you contact the manufacturer directly Here is a link to their website:

http://npofakel.ru

Some info about their products: (in Russian and English)

http://npofakel.ru/media/Raket_Fakela.pdf

If you are going to be in SVO, they are only a few kilometers away in the town of Khimki: ulitsa Akademika Grushina, 33, Khimki, Moskovskaya oblast', Russia

Oleg,

Thank you! I will try to contact them during the next few days. Yesterday I took the engine to work and after end of my shift I borrowed our boroscope and did an internal visual inspection as far as I could get into the engine. There is some corrosion on the turbine rotor and it is a bit difficult to turn, so I will have to take the turbopump apart to see what the bearings look like and to remove the corrosion with Scotchbrite.
Pictures to come.

RWessel, no, while I have a permanent girlfriend, I live mostly alone in my own place.  

Jan


User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12839 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3974 times:

Quoting MD11Bob (Reply 12):
Reminds me of the guy which runs a L-1011 engine in his backyard...

What, you don't?  



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