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Canada's Prime Minister Gets A New Paint Job .....  
User currently offlinec3000flyboy From Canada, joined May 2000, 104 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5110 times:

for his plane. It looks a bit US Airways to me ......

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stor.../06/07/pol-pm-plane-paint-job.html

[Edited 2013-06-07 09:50:27]


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User currently offlinetp1040 From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5077 times:

Oh, his plane got a new paint job.

User currently offlineyulqc From Finland, joined May 2005, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5024 times:

It does have something of US Airways, but a lot from the Conservative party colors too..


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User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1986 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4962 times:

Quoting yulqc (Reply 2):

You're correct. What an absolute joke. This paint job has the conservative colours in it. More naturally for Canada you'd have either a simple grey (so it can be used "tactically" as well) or if it must be made to entice Mr. Harper something more Canadian.. Simply some Red and White which are colours Canadians identify with more. A memo should be sent to the PMO and inform them that government party is not that of the conservative party but of the Canadian government.

/Rant.



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User currently offlineAllee From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4895 times:

I have no problem with this paint job. It matches the RCAF rondel at the front.

Besides, the Snowbirds also wear red, white and blue....


User currently offlineqblue From Canada, joined Jun 2004, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4895 times:

It looks like a Low cost airline paint job and design done by a child.

User currently offlinesaloman From Canada, joined Jun 2011, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4860 times:

Quoting yulqc (Reply 2):
It does have something of US Airways, but a lot from the Conservative party colors too..

This came up in an earlier thread but the argument can just as easily be made that the red and blue scheme actually matches the RCAF roundel on the livery.

I suspect people of certain political leanings will buy into one argument or the other, with the truth falling somewhere in between.

I'm not a huge fan of the design, but it's better than the tactical grey. Looked quite out of place when a G8 leader arrives at multinational meetins in a plane that is hardly distinguishable as Canadian. They've got four others in the tactical grey for troop/supply movement.


User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5057 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4752 times:

Quoting saloman (Reply 6):
Looked quite out of place when a G8 leader arrives at multinational meetins in a plane that is hardly distinguishable as Canadian

I agree, it always looked like the Prime Minister of Canada was arriving in a Herc when the grey/grey A310 arrived!



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User currently offlinerobsaw From Canada, joined Dec 2008, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4690 times:

Quoting yulqc (Reply 2):
It does have something of US Airways, but a lot from the Conservative party colors too..

Me thinks you are taking Mulcair's interpretation WAY too seriously. As others have said, red/white/blue is RCAF colour scheme and this aircraft is part of their fleet.


User currently offlineYYZYYT From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 971 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4690 times:

Quoting yulqc (Reply 2):
It does have something of US Airways, but a lot from the Conservative party colors too..
Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 3):
A memo should be sent to the PMO and inform them that government party is not that of the conservative party but of the Canadian government.

  

Quoting Allee (Reply 4):
I have no problem with this paint job. It matches the RCAF rondel at the front.

Besides, the Snowbirds also wear red, white and blue....


While I have no problem with the roundel, I do with the re-paint generally.

The paint job is not the same as the Snowbirds. They are red and white predominantly, with a blue line - from the ground you see red and white aircraft only, which is what you would expect...

This aircraft is blue and white predominantly, not the colours associated with Canada.

When assessing this, the CBC story is insturctive (the picture in the opening post is attached to the story): the Department of Defence opposed a re-paint from the grey, but it was done at the insistence of the PMO. For those not familiar with our system, that is the Prime Ministrer's Office - which is a politicial (i.e., partisan) entity.

[Edited 2013-06-07 11:14:49]

User currently offlineflyb From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

Looks horrible, looks like a conservatives campiagn aircraft.

User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4529 times:

It looks mostly blue to me and i would prefer the old grey version, even for VIP use. I would say it does smell like a bit of a political influence going on here.
I would say the overall design would look more at home on a French AF aircraft rather than Canadian.

I say bring back the classic look from the CC-137 of the 70's and 80's  


User currently offlineBO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2771 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4432 times:

And classic retro would be a winner. This one is ok but I find the blue too dominating.
This one probably should not be used to ferry troops in conflict zones as it will be too much of a target for insurgents.
God forbid if this was filled with troops and something happened to it.

None the less, it is a huge improvement from the dull grey. World leaders having a prominent and aesthetically pleasing rides show strength and not cheapness. About time we finally have ours.



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User currently offlineThePointblank From Canada, joined Jan 2009, 1767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4299 times:

Quoting BO__einG (Reply 12):
This one probably should not be used to ferry troops in conflict zones as it will be too much of a target for insurgents.
God forbid if this was filled with troops and something happened to it.

There is no chance of flying the CC-150 into a place where there's shooting going on. No way. The troops would offloaded at a nearby safe airport, and be transported the final leg on something more appropriate, such as a C-130.

FYI, the aircraft involved was due for a repaint anyways as part of regular on going maintenance. The PMO's office figured 'hey since you are going to be repainting, how about changing the colour scheme.'

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 9):
This aircraft is blue and white predominantly, not the colours associated with Canada.

You will get a kick out of the Challenger jet's the CF have, they are predominantly blue:

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They've been this shade of blue ever since they were purchased.


User currently offlinePowerslide From Canada, joined Oct 2010, 571 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4251 times:

Quoting saloman (Reply 6):
I'm not a huge fan of the design, but it's better than the tactical grey.

Considering the aircraft is assigned to a Canadian Air Force squadron, it should be in tactical colours. When it's not being used by the PM the aircraft is assigned to transporting CF members around for various exercises and deployments. If he wanted a fancy plane why not just rent a 777LR from Air Canada, like PM's do in other countries.


User currently offlineThePointblank From Canada, joined Jan 2009, 1767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4242 times:

Quoting Powerslide (Reply 14):
When it's not being used by the PM the aircraft is assigned to transporting CF members around for various exercises and deployments.

Actually, this particular aircraft is equipped for VIP transport (it even has a shower).

Quoting Powerslide (Reply 14):
If he wanted a fancy plane why not just rent a 777LR from Air Canada, like PM's do in other countries.

Many other nations have dedicated VIP aircraft operated by their military or another government organization.

I will note that it will be more likely that this particular Airbus will see more VIP taskings as the CF is retiring 4 of the 6 Challenger jet's without replacement.


User currently offlinePowerslide From Canada, joined Oct 2010, 571 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4140 times:

Quoting ThePointblank (Reply 15):
Actually, this particular aircraft is equipped for VIP transport (it even has a shower).

That plane is used for a lot of other things that don't involve politicians. I flew on that exact plane out of HNL 4 years ago and many other members use it for other duties. It isn't his own private jet.


User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3967 times:

Quoting Powerslide (Reply 16):
It isn't his own private jet.

That won't stop the opposition from moaning about it....no matter WHO'S in the big seat. Their real problem is that their man ISN'T in the big seat.



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User currently offlinePowerslide From Canada, joined Oct 2010, 571 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3955 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 17):
That won't stop the opposition from moaning about it....no matter WHO'S in the big seat. Their real problem is that their man ISN'T in the big seat.

The opposition won't be forming a government for another few generations when the general Canadian population have lost their minds. By that time air travel will be a thing of the past.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12158 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3865 times:

I have no problem with a unique livery on this CC-150. It is in RCAF colors and it does carry the PM. The USAF 89th Wing has several airplanes painted in the USAF AF-1 livery, so what is the difference. The airplane was due a new paint job anyway.

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 11):
CC-137

Now that was a classy livery for the RCAF, and later the CF. It is almost impossible to make a B-707 look ugly in any livery.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29805 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3818 times:

Actually there are several valid reasons to have and aircraft such as this or AF-1 not painted in normal tactical military colors.

It would hardly give the right impression to show up at a peace conference for example with a camoflauged paint job.



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