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B-1 Bomber Crashes In SE Montana  
User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2838 posts, RR: 4
Posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6730 times:
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Looks like a B-1 crashed during a training mission in Montana today. They are reporting the 4 crew members ejected safely with only minor injuries. No cause yet on what happened.

How extensively are the B-1s used? I think they are awesome looking planes but you never hear too much about them. Only seem to hear about B-52s and B-2s
Pat


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User currently offlineKC135Hydraulics From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6441 times:

Definitely not a good thing for the Air Force! Those are high value, low density assets that are most certainly not replaceable. I'll be interested to read the crash investigation... still waiting to hear about the KC-135 crash, by the way.

User currently offlinezanl188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3591 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6338 times:
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Quoting KC135Hydraulics (Reply 1):

There are B-1s sitting in the desert at DM. Scrape off the spraylat, do the tctos & voila... you got a replacement.



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User currently offlineSooner787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2013, 384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6274 times:

Quoting zanl188 (Reply 2):
There are B-1s sitting in the desert at DM. Scrape off the spraylat, do the tctos & voila... you got a replacement.

How many of those B-1's are intact?

I thought they were robbing parts from those frames ?


User currently offlineOzair From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 881 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6250 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Thread starter):
How extensively are the B-1s used?

They were pivotal to air support in Afghanistan over the last 10 years as a B-1 was always in the air and available 24/7 for pretty much the entire campaign. http://www.dodbuzz.com/2012/08/02/th...es-record-breaking-b-1-deployment/

Their long range gives them great loiter time, high speed allows for rapid movement to the required location and large conventional weapon load provided a wide range of weapons to be carried, ensuring the right sized weapon was used on the right target.


User currently offlineRushmoreAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6127 times:

Now they have an image of the crash site. It's completely disintegrated - I can't even tell that it's an aircraft.

http://www.kotatv.com/story/23176779...training-flight-crew-ejects-safely



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User currently offlinecjg225 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 888 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6112 times:

Quoting RushmoreAir (Reply 5):
Now they have an image of the crash site. It's completely disintegrated - I can't even tell that it's an aircraft.

Looks kinda like what was left (or not left) of the NAC 747F that went down at Bagram.

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User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2838 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5938 times:
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Quoting Ozair (Reply 4):
Their long range gives them great loiter time, high speed allows for rapid movement to the required location and large conventional weapon load provided a wide range of weapons to be carried, ensuring the right sized weapon was used on the right target.

Very interesting information! I appreciate you sharing that. You just never seem to hear about anything but the B-2 in every day news.

Quoting RushmoreAir (Reply 5):
Now they have an image of the crash site. It's completely disintegrated - I can't even tell that it's an aircraft.

Oh my goodness! There is nothing left. At least the crew is safe.
Pat



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User currently offline135mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 412 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5561 times:
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We here at Ellsworth are incredibly grateful that the crew only suffered minor injuries!!! Like someone mentioned it looks similar to the Bagram crash, but fortunately we did not have any fatalities.

We (the general public) here at the base still have no details of the cause yet, but it was only in the air a short time before impact and still had most of it's fuel on board...so that would explain the lack of remains.

If we get authorized to devulge more info I will pass it on.

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User currently offlineFSXJunkie From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5471 times:

Quoting zanl188 (Reply 2):

There are B-1s sitting in the desert at DM. Scrape off the spraylat, do the tctos & voila... you got a replacement.

First off how old are they?

If under the spraylat are SAC gaunlets, chances are they aren't treaty compliant, and given the budget situation a bean counter will poo poo the cost of bringing it to compliance.

Also rumor is SAC got Rockwell to squeeze out a few B-1A's...if those are found, they're going straight to the guillotine.


User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2402 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days ago) and read 5436 times:

Quoting RushmoreAir (Reply 5):
It's completely disintegrated - I can't even tell that it's an aircraft.

A big airplane hitting the ground out-of-control at a high rate of speed will tend to look like that. Glad the crew was able to get out safely.



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User currently offlineeksath From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1317 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5183 times:
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Quoting 135mech (Reply 8):
If we get authorized to devulge more info I will pass it on.

Thanks. Would appreciate it if we can find the serial# when it is ready for public release.



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User currently offline135mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 412 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5148 times:
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Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 9):
Also rumor is SAC got Rockwell to squeeze out a few B-1A's...if those are found, they're going straight to the guillotine.



There were the 4 original B-1A's that were shelved for nearly a decade and are mostly static birds around the country with the exception of 001, which was cut up and ended up being a cockpit trainer.

When the B-1's were brought back, the "new" ones were B-1B's, of which 100 were made.

135Mech


User currently offlineredflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4747 times:

Quoting 135mech (Reply 12):
There were the 4 original B-1A's that were shelved for nearly a decade and are mostly static birds

Didn't one of those 1A's crash back in the late 80's during testing?



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User currently offlineredflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4744 times:

Quoting RushmoreAir (Reply 5):
Now they have an image of the crash site. It's completely disintegrated - I can't even tell that it's an aircraft.

http://www.kotatv.com/story/23176779...afely

Interestingly, even though it looks like nothing but a pile of ashes, in the one photo you can barely see the outline of the aircraft. It almost appears as though she belly-flopped onto the ground instead of hitting nose first or even cartwheeling.



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4683 times:

Quoting redflyer (Reply 13):
Didn't one of those 1A's crash back in the late 80's during testing?

Yes - Aug 29, 1984 - during minimum control speed tests at low altitude - apparently stalled. When the escape capsule deployed - the chutes came out improperly and Rockwell's test pilot was killed as the capsule hit the ground nose down.

The last B-1A and all the B-1B aircraft have four ejection seats, the escape capsule was dropped from the design.


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