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Scorpion New Light-attack Jetplane To Fly In 2013  
User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2827 posts, RR: 4
Posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9495 times:

According to Aviation-Week 16th of September Textron (known for their Cessnas) is building a new twin-engined light attack jetplane. It is built in composites and will fly this year. The Company building the plane is a Young Company - AirLand.

Some specifications:
2 crew
wingspan 47.3ft
length 43.5ft
engines 2x Honeywell TFE731e 8000lb
Max speed 450kt
Ceiling 45 000 feet
Ferry range: 2400Nm
emtpy weight 11800 lb
MTOW 21250l

According to the article the cost per flying hour for a F-16 is 24899,- USD in june of this year, while the targeted cost per flying hour for the AirLand Scorpion is 3000USD. Initially the market is internationally, but Textron hopes the US Budget squeze is good news for AirLand in the US Inventory.



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User currently offlinequeb From Canada, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 900 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9241 times:

More infos here:


User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2827 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 9157 times:

Quoting queb (Reply 1):
More infos here:

Thanks for sharing. It will be interesting to see how this plane performs. I have been supportive of the Beechcraft Texan II and Embraer Super Tucano as not every mission requires state-of-the art airplanes like the Rafael, Typhoon or F-35. But the huge gap in capabilities between the turboprops and the F-35 has been too much. A 450kt jetplane will probably stand a better chance to operate as a cost efficient alternative when the situation do not require Extreme capabilities.

Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
User currently offlineinfiniti329 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 1679 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8883 times:

This could be gift to some developing countries who cannot afford to upgrade their military aircraft to what is currently being offered on the market. Countries in south america may like this aircraft for their counter-narcotics operations. As far as the USAF signing for some of these I don't see it happening. Doubt congress will approve any new (build) aircraft for air force anytime in the near future after the f-35 & f-22 fiasco.

User currently offlinecmb56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7251 times:

An aircraft like this has zero chance in the US or other "advanced" countries. Maybe as an export it can find a market. Why two seats? If it is a combat aircraft you give up that much payload for what, an extra set of eyes? Do you use it as a trainer? Close air support has changed a lot given how good the anti-air ground fire can be. Even the A-10 has proposed changes to the fire control system to allow the 30mm gun to be used from very long slant ranges. I think that the days of getting down at close range and shooting up a ground target with guns may not be gone but it is a pretty high risk mission. If the risk is not very high then the Tucano or similar can do the job. If the risk is high why not consider using a drone?

User currently offlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 4546 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7173 times:

So, a Hornet and a Frogfoot... gives you a Hornetfoot?

Great news to see the gap filled between helicopter gunships and fighter jets!


Keeping calm is terrorism against those who want to live in fear.
User currently offlinesturmovik From India, joined May 2007, 644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6416 times:

She's taxiing around already. First flight won't be too far..

'What's it doing now?'
User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12367 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5969 times:

The Scorpion won't get serious consideration for the COIN or CAS missions unless it has a gun. To do that it is going to have to be a little bigger and heavier to mount even a 20mm gun. The current payload of 6200 lbs. will need to be increased, too, up to about 8000 lbs. to 9000 lbs. Probe and drogue air refueling capability would be nice, too. All of this also means more powerful engines.

User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2627 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5632 times:

Scorpion's first flight was December 12.

[Edited 2013-12-13 12:39:29]

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User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2827 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4655 times:

Nice to see the Scorpion progress as scheduled!

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 7):

Can these changes be made without increasing the cost too much? The A10 thunderbolt is safe for now, with Obama signing documents to keep at least 289 of them going forward. But can the Scorpion replace some of the action the A10 has been performing? I now Pentagon wants the F35 to do all CAS, but will that be necessary for all operations?

Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
User currently onlineceo@afg From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 262 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4368 times:

Video of the first flight.


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