Sponsor Message:
Military Aviation & Space Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Scorpion New Light-attack Jetplane To Fly In 2013  
User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2773 posts, RR: 4
Posted (1 year 6 months 3 hours ago) and read 8089 times:

According to Aviation-Week 16th of September Textron (known for their Cessnas) is building a new twin-engined light attack jetplane. It is built in composites and will fly this year. The Company building the plane is a Young Company - AirLand.

Some specifications:
2 crew
wingspan 47.3ft
length 43.5ft
engines 2x Honeywell TFE731e 8000lb
Max speed 450kt
Ceiling 45 000 feet
Ferry range: 2400Nm
emtpy weight 11800 lb
MTOW 21250l

According to the article the cost per flying hour for a F-16 is 24899,- USD in june of this year, while the targeted cost per flying hour for the AirLand Scorpion is 3000USD. Initially the market is internationally, but Textron hopes the US Budget squeze is good news for AirLand in the US Inventory.



Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
10 replies: All unread, jump to last
User currently offlinequeb From Canada, joined May 2010, 775 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7835 times:

More infos here:


User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2773 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7751 times:

Quoting queb (Reply 1):
More infos here:

Thanks for sharing. It will be interesting to see how this plane performs. I have been supportive of the Beechcraft Texan II and Embraer Super Tucano as not every mission requires state-of-the art airplanes like the Rafael, Typhoon or F-35. But the huge gap in capabilities between the turboprops and the F-35 has been too much. A 450kt jetplane will probably stand a better chance to operate as a cost efficient alternative when the situation do not require Extreme capabilities.

Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
User currently offlineinfiniti329 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 964 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 7477 times:

This could be gift to some developing countries who cannot afford to upgrade their military aircraft to what is currently being offered on the market. Countries in south america may like this aircraft for their counter-narcotics operations. As far as the USAF signing for some of these I don't see it happening. Doubt congress will approve any new (build) aircraft for air force anytime in the near future after the f-35 & f-22 fiasco.

User currently offlinecmb56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 10 hours ago) and read 5845 times:

An aircraft like this has zero chance in the US or other "advanced" countries. Maybe as an export it can find a market. Why two seats? If it is a combat aircraft you give up that much payload for what, an extra set of eyes? Do you use it as a trainer? Close air support has changed a lot given how good the anti-air ground fire can be. Even the A-10 has proposed changes to the fire control system to allow the 30mm gun to be used from very long slant ranges. I think that the days of getting down at close range and shooting up a ground target with guns may not be gone but it is a pretty high risk mission. If the risk is not very high then the Tucano or similar can do the job. If the risk is high why not consider using a drone?

User currently offlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 3183 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 7 hours ago) and read 5767 times:

So, a Hornet and a Frogfoot... gives you a Hornetfoot?

Great news to see the gap filled between helicopter gunships and fighter jets!


Keeping calm is terrorism against those who want to live in fear.
User currently offlinesturmovik From India, joined May 2007, 528 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5010 times:

She's taxiing around already. First flight won't be too far..

'What's it doing now?'
User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12223 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4563 times:

The Scorpion won't get serious consideration for the COIN or CAS missions unless it has a gun. To do that it is going to have to be a little bigger and heavier to mount even a 20mm gun. The current payload of 6200 lbs. will need to be increased, too, up to about 8000 lbs. to 9000 lbs. Probe and drogue air refueling capability would be nice, too. All of this also means more powerful engines.

User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4226 times:

Scorpion's first flight was December 12.

[Edited 2013-12-13 12:39:29]

Boeing Flown: 701,702,703;717;720;721,722;731,732,733,734,735,737,738,739;741,742,743,744,747SP;752,753;762,763;772,773.
User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2773 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3249 times:

Nice to see the Scorpion progress as scheduled!

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 7):

Can these changes be made without increasing the cost too much? The A10 thunderbolt is safe for now, with Obama signing documents to keep at least 289 of them going forward. But can the Scorpion replace some of the action the A10 has been performing? I now Pentagon wants the F35 to do all CAS, but will that be necessary for all operations?

Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
User currently onlineceo@afg From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 253 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

Video of the first flight.


"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue." Steven McCroskey, Airplane!
Top Of Page
Forum Index

Reply To This Topic Scorpion New Light-attack Jetplane To Fly In 2013
No username? Sign up now!

Forgot Password? Be reminded.
Remember me on this computer (uses cookies)
  • Military aviation related posts only!
  • Not military related? Use the other forums
  • No adverts of any kind. This includes web pages.
  • No hostile language or criticizing of others.
  • Do not post copyright protected material.
  • Use relevant and describing topics.
  • Check if your post already been discussed.
  • Check your spelling!
Add Images Add SmiliesPosting Help

Please check your spelling (press "Check Spelling" above)

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Expect A New Boeing X-48C Blended-wing Body To Fly posted Sat Jul 7 2012 14:01:49 by AF351
If You Were In Flight School You'd Want To Fly.... posted Sat Oct 20 2007 15:32:28 by KevinSmith
Next Space Tourist Announced To Fly To The ISS posted Thu Oct 4 2012 04:02:04 by MadameConcorde
Rafale:Production To End In 2030? posted Wed Dec 7 2011 22:52:24 by Chamonix
Will It Fly In Peoria? posted Wed Aug 17 2011 06:03:47 by stlgph
Which Fighter Is The Easiest To Fly? posted Sun May 1 2011 13:23:31 by Chamonix
U-2 To Fly Till 2015. posted Mon Mar 28 2011 10:32:57 by fxramper
Silent Eagle Sale To Rokaf In The Works? posted Thu Nov 4 2010 14:27:00 by Lumberton
Vulcan To Fly At The Royal International Air Tatto posted Wed Jul 7 2010 09:00:16 by readytotaxi
HAL's (India's) New Light Combat Helicopter Flies posted Tue Mar 30 2010 11:48:27 by GolfOscarDelta

Sponsor Message:
Printer friendly format