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Swiss F/A-18 Down In Switzerland  
User currently offline777 From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 514 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 months 2 days ago) and read 4175 times:

Some European media are reporting that a F/A-18 belonging to the Swiss AF just crashed into a mountain near the Alpnach AFB, while flying together with another F/A-18.

No news so far about the fate of the pilot.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/10...ts-crashes-in-central-switzerland/

Another link (in Italian) with the picture of the crash site

http://info.rsi.ch/home/channels/inf...3--Obvaldo-si--schiantato-un-FA-18

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User currently offline777 From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 514 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 months 2 days ago) and read 4171 times:

According to La Repubblica, the missing a/c is a double seat version.

http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2013...reo_militare_in_svizzera-69264655/

At the following link, 5 more pictures, including one showing the wreckage on an engine.

http://www.tio.ch/News/Svizzera/7609...18-dell-Esercito-svizzero/Immagini

[Edited 2013-10-23 07:37:58]

User currently offlineSAS A340 From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

Two people that was onboard is missing....  


It's not what u do,it's how u do it!
User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8711 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (6 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

The crash happened only a couple of miles away from my parents' home in Stans.

http://www.tdg.ch/suisse/fa-18-s-dou...rase-canton-dobwald/story/22176323
(in French)

They still aren't sure, but the army spokesman says that "It does not look good" in terms of the crew.

Edit: Eyewitnesses report that the plane evidently tried to pull up at the last second before slamming into the mountainside. Sounds like the pilot was still trying to get control...

http://www.nidwaldnerzeitung.ch/nach...n-Alpnach-abgestuerzt;art95,301401

[Edited 2013-10-23 11:06:44]


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User currently offlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2063 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3568 times:

Exact location of the accident: Rock faces just above the railway line and the road, see here: http://s.geo.admin.ch/38937ff9f

The planes took off in Meiringen (AFAIK), which would mean that they flew over the Brünig pass, which lies in the west of the crash location. The pilots would have followed that valley in VFR.

It seems it has crashed about 50 to 80 meters above the lake level. Weather conditions were reported to be "bad". The other F/A-18 returned in IFR.


David



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User currently offlinecjg225 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3550 times:

Very unfortunate. Prayers to the crew's family.


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User currently offlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2063 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

"Very small" remains of one pilot have been found. The black box has also been located, and is due to be retrieved soon.

A reader of the newspaper "20 Minuten" shot this picture of the engine:


http://www.20min.ch/diashow/83006/83006-ug1QqgVyTLJOMVOJHmSIqw.jpg


In 1998, a double-seated F/A-18 crashed in Crans-Montana during a chase training. With near 1 Mach, with a descent angle of 75°, the aircraft crashed at 1800 meters of altitude in cloudy situations. The village of Crans-Montana is at 1500 meters of altitude, and the surrounding mountains, just about 3-4 kilometers away, reach 3000 meters.


David



Keeping calm is terrorism against those who want to live in fear.
User currently onlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1661 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (6 months 3 hours ago) and read 2877 times:

J-5237 is the registration of the crashed F/A-18D.
UFN all Swiss Airforce F/A-18's are grounded

My thoughts are with the families of the involved crew.  



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User currently offlineflyingturtle From Switzerland, joined Oct 2011, 2063 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (6 months 1 hour ago) and read 2823 times:

On the website of tagesanzeiger.ch, there are various pictures showing the trajectory immediately before the crash, based on clipped trees:

http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/schweiz/...n-Sekunden-der-FA18/story/30639618


Here is one particular image showing the weather ten minutes before the crash: http://files.newsnetz.ch/bildlegende/123886/1533708_pic_970x641.jpg


David



Keeping calm is terrorism against those who want to live in fear.
User currently offlineAlex22 From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 71 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (6 months ago) and read 2810 times:

Quoting DALCE (Reply 7):
UFN all Swiss Airforce F/A-18's are grounded

Wrong, they just got grounded wednesday afternoon but have been flying yesterday and today.


User currently onlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1661 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (6 months ago) and read 2795 times:

Well, I asume the notice has come then.

Good to hear them being put to duty again!

Cheers,
DALCE



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