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Norway Selects AW101 For SAR  
User currently offlineThePointblank From Canada, joined Jan 2009, 1554 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

Final negotiations with AgustaWestland for an expected 16 AW101's for SAR work for 1 billion euro's. First delivery anticipated in 2017:
http://www.defensenews.com/article/2...AR-Role?odyssey=mod_sectionstories

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ROME — Norway has selected AgustaWestland to supply new search-and-rescue helicopters in a deal that could be worth more than €1 billion and include more than 16 AW101 helicopters.

An announcement on a Norwegian government website on Nov. 8 stated that Norway had “decided to commence final negotiations with the company AgustaWestland Ltd. for the delivery of new search and rescue helicopters to replace the current Sea King.”

AgustaWestland defeated competition from Eurocopter, as well as Europe’s NHIndustries and US maker Sikorsky.


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User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3531 times:

Sounds like a great helicopter. Let's hope we actually get these helicopters on scheduled time and not like the NH90 wich was supposed to have been starting delivery in 2005 to the Norwegian navy, but still has'nt gotten one operating helicopter delivered ...

User currently onlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6641 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3426 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 1):
NH90 wich was supposed to have been starting delivery in 2005 to the Norwegian navy,

God knows what's happening with Norways NH90's, interesting that NZ placed their order after Norway but have already taken delivery of most of the fleet, most of the fleet (8) are operational.


User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3372 times:

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 2):
God knows what's happening with Norways NH90's, interesting that NZ placed their order after Norway but have already taken delivery of most of the fleet, most of the fleet (8) are operational.

What type of NH90's did New Zealand order ?

Norway has a modified version of the NH90 as does many other countries.

[Edited 2013-11-10 11:56:04]

User currently onlineKiwiRob From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 6641 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3321 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 3):
What type of NH90's did New Zealand order ?

No idea, I think the same as Australia, but with assembly in France.

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 3):

Norway has a modified version of the NH90 as does many other countries.

That appears to be the problem with this chopper, far too many versions and assembly sites.


User currently offlinebreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1892 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2937 times:

Quoting ThePointblank (Thread starter):
Final negotiations with AgustaWestland for an expected 16 AW101's for SAR work for 1 billion euro's.

Reported selection deciding points were capacity and range.

EC225: capacity 20 - range 857 km/463 nmi - MTOW 11,200 kg - Length 19.5 m
AW101: capacity 38 - range 833 km/450 nmi - MTOW 15,600 kg - Length 22.8 m

Mission profiles play with capacity and range, so straight comparisons are difficult.

Norway would like to replace the S-61...with an S-61, which is rather difficult.

At Euro 1 billion for 16 units (I assume with SAR equipment, spare parts and training), the AW101 does not look cheap compared to the EC225.


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13045 posts, RR: 78
Reply 6, posted (5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2896 times:

Quoting breiz (Reply 5):
At Euro 1 billion for 16 units (I assume with SAR equipment, spare parts and training), the AW101 does not look cheap compared to the EC225.

Whatever the merits of that chopper, it's not flavour of the month in the North Sea region right now.

You get what you pay for, Norway has a challenging requirement.
They got very good service with their Westland Sea Kings, since the replacement of that type was the primary EH-101 design goal, not surprising Norway kept it in the family, so to speak.


User currently offlineprebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6289 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (5 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2801 times:

Without doubt the Norwegeans have spoken to the Danes before this order. RDAF (Royal Danish Air Force) took delivery of 14 AW101s between 2006 and 2010, 8 of SAR version and 6 of tactical transport version.

They came a little late, and introduction wasn't trouble free. But today I think the RDAF is happy with them.

They replaced 8 S-61A in the SAR role. Those S-61s made 45 year of service in RDAF.

Quoting breiz (Reply 5):
AW101: capacity 38 - range 833 km/450 nmi - MTOW 15,600 kg - Length 22.8 m

Mission profiles play with capacity and range

Yup! Danish AW101s in SAR configuration have a 1129 km range with a typical crew of six persons. Unload the SAR equipment - radar, infrared, hoist, medical stuff etc. - and range is more 1400 km-ish. That's the basic range of a "useless" AW101. Fill up with stuff making it useful, and every lb substitutes one lb fuel.



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

Norway to sign contract worth 6,25 billion Norwegian Kroner on Thursday.
The contract is for 16 New AW101's With an option for an adittional 6. First delivery in 2017.
By the end of 2020, all Norway's current Sea Kings wil be replaced.

http://www.nrk.no/rogaland/ny-heliko...terkontrakt-pa-6_25-mrd-1.11424289


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