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USS Midway Museum In SAN  
User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4870 times:

The USS Midway, which was retired by the US Navy in the early 90's after 40+ years of service is coming home to San Diego as a museum. The society which now owns the carrier had it painted in Oakland and it will be towed to San Diego on the 28th of Dec, with an arrival date of 2 January 04. The ship will be docked at North Island NAS for a few days while some of the airplanes that will be on display are loaded aboard. Midway will then be towed to the other side of the harbor and permanently docked. It should be open for viewing in April, with the museum being complete (as complete as a growing museum can be...) sometime later in the year.

The site where it will be docked is along Harbor Drive, just south of Broadway, with easy access from downtown, Seaport Village, the Star of India and the Cruise Ship terminal.

Link to the Midway homepage:
http://www.midway.org/index.html

Line to article from the San Diego Union (Dec 14, 03)
http://signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/metro/index.html?0.026755205645461133



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User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3120 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4793 times:
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Hey Tony,

Has there been any news about which aircraft they hope to exhibit on the Midway? And why can't the Midway have a Concorde?  Smile

Edward


User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4783 times:

Midway certainly has the flight deck for a Concorde.  Wink/being sarcastic Seriously, has anyone seen the girth of this mother? She's was the first of 3 sisters, and probably the most used & respected as well. Midway has been rebuilt a few times and she certainly could handle any aircraft in the US arsenal up to and including the C-130 Herk. USS Midway...welcome home. I'll be looking forward to walking your decks soon. Best regards.


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User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4763 times:

After doing a bit more research...here is a link to the aircraft list to be displayed on board Midway.

http://members.cox.net/midwayhangar/aircraft_index.htm

Promises to be something special. Hopefully the museum will work hand in hand with the other fine aviation museums we have locally.

[Edited 2003-12-15 04:36:55]

User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4682 times:

Ill get some close up photos.

On side note, this carrier is big, but, not nearly as big as the Kitty Hawk or Nimitz Class.

[Edited 2003-12-20 05:42:29]

User currently offlineDrcv41 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4665 times:

Almost any aircraft. We could not carry f-14s on a permannet basis. The Tomcat is a heavy bird and we could only launch one at a time and then wait until the steam came back up. Also, we could handle the s-3 with ease but could not get them into the hanger due to there tall tail. Wouldn't fit. I was a yellow shirt her and she was and still is a good ship.

User currently offlineFACT From South Africa, joined Jul 2002, 200 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4624 times:

Nice to hear that the Midway will be preserved.

Does anyone know what's happened to her sister ships? The Franklin D. Roosevelt has long since been scrapped, right? And the Coral Sea is still in reserve somewhere?

/Andrew D



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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4616 times:

Sorry to say, FACT...the Coral Sea is gone. She was scrapped just acouple of years ago. And the FDR was scrapped in the late '70s, if anyone didn't know that.
Slightly off-topic here, but I thought the S-3 Viking had a folding tail...but per Drcv41 I'm mistaken there. Merry Christmas.  Wink/being sarcastic



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User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4612 times:

The S-3's tail does indeed fold.


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[Edited 2003-12-25 02:15:14]

User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 4 hours ago) and read 4586 times:

Bit of an update here...

http://signonsandiego.com/news/military/20031229-0830-midway.html


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months ago) and read 4581 times:

Nice to see the USS Midway finally find a home and escape the torch. Even better it's ending up in a navy town.

On a little side note it appears that the USS America CV-66 is scheduled for scrapping.


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4572 times:

Drcy41,
Were you thinking of the A-3 Skywarrior? It is a bit bigger then an S-3.



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User currently offlineWoodreau From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 1043 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4561 times:

A bit off topic, a website where you can find out what's going on with all dem Navy ships...

http://www.nvr.navy.mil

http://www.nvr.navy.mil/nvrships/details/CV42.htm
http://www.nvr.navy.mil/nvrships/details/CV43.htm
http://www.nvr.navy.mil/nvrships/details/CV66.htm



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User currently offlineDahawaiian From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4540 times:

This has been a long time in the making, and I am glad her future is now solidified. She had been sitting in Bremerton for about a decade before she was finally towed to Oakland, so I would imagine that the restoration process will take several years at the least.
As far as scrapping the super-carriers, I have heard that it is extremely cost-prohibitive at this point partially due to environmental regulations regarding the cleanup of contaminants such as asbestos. The Coral Sea (CV-43) scrapping took a long time from what I hear due to these such laws. You can find pictures of the Coral Sea undergoing the process at navsource.org. They have thousands of US Navy ship pictures on their database.
Woodreau- Just to let you know, the NVR website isn't all that accurate because I used to take pictures of the decommed ships in Pearl Harbor, and I can tell you that some ships were long gone even though they were still listed as being present on the website. I mean, the website lists the USS Whipple (FF-1062) as still being there although I know for a fact that there hasn't been a Knox Class Frigate there for several years now.


User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4454 times:

The Midway has arrived in San Diego and is now tied up at North Island. Should be moving to it's home on Harbor Drive on the 10th of January.

User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4446 times:

That's great news, 2912n. Sounds like it was an uneventful tow from WA. I gather Midway is taking onboard her display aircrafts now at the North Island...correct? Regards.


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User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4450 times:

My understanding is that they are doing some final modifications at North Island and are loading the display aircraft on board. She is supposed to be moved across the bay next week.

She is moored in line with Nimitz and Stennis. Looks tiny compared to those two...

Museum is due to open come April.


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4417 times:

Drove right next to it going to work tonight. What a ship.

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4390 times:




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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4388 times:

If I'm not mistaken, that looks like an E-2 Hawkeye being hoisted aboard. The ship is still very imposing to me...comparing the men aboard her & on the pier. Midway, I'll be walking your decks very soon.  Wink/being sarcastic Regards.


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User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4371 times:

I have a couple of photos that I took from a flight over Midway while still docked at North Island. There was an A-6, an A-7 and the E-2 on the deck. Hopefully I can upload on of the photos. (Airport overview?  Smile )

User currently offlineWoodreau From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 1043 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4368 times:

I heard that one of the big complaints against Midway being berthed on the Embarcadero was that she would impose on the skyline and block views of the harbor... I did a drive-by the Midway yesterday and it was lost in between the trees and the buildings.

It's not much bigger than these new-fangled cruise ships these days...

I do remember when I was flying around Rhode Island, the twin flat-tops Forrestal and Saratoga alongside the battleship Iowa were tempting me to make an unscheduled landing... with 700ft of flight deck I think I could have gotten away with a touch and go.  Smile


Woodreau / KMVL



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User currently offlineDrgreen757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4362 times:

I think I would complain if the skyline blocked my view of the carrier. Last time I saw the Midway was in San Diego...she was still listing pretty bad from what I remember.

Cheers!



Save the grey ghosts.
User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4349 times:

Considering the Port has allowed things like the convention center and two major hotels to be built along Harbor Drive (and one of the ugliest multi story car parks...) that all block the view of the bay the addition of Midway is nothing. At least it FLOATS on the bay.  Smile

I think she was listing when she was here last because of the decommisioning work being done on her. Out of ballast etc...She was riding high a level the other day.


User currently offlineDrgreen757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4337 times:

I guess she has always been a little unstable being she was originally a straight deck carrier. She's been around a long time.


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25 Post contains images FlagshipAZ : If you think Midway has been around a long time, the Yorktown (CV-10) has been around longer. And Yorktown was originally built with a straight deck a
26 2912n : Lets see...These are museum ships now... Yorktown is in Charlestown, South Carolina. Intrepid is in NYC Hornet is in Alameda, California Lexington is
27 Garnetpalmetto : Cabot began scrapping in October 2000 and finished sometime in 2003 Oriskany is not yet gone, but is supposed to be sunk as an artificial reef sometim
28 Post contains images DeltaGuy : Last time I saw Ranger, she looked decent...abiet, the paint was VERY beat up from sitting in that Puget Sound water forever... I never got why Americ
29 LMP737 : If you go to the official US Navy website, click on US NAVY TODAY, go to CURRENT PHOTOS and do a search for the USS Midway there are some great pictur
30 Post contains links and images 2912n : View Large View MediumPhoto © Tony Zeljeznjak Here she is tied up at North Island a couple of days before they moved her to her permanent home.
31 Post contains images STT757 :
32 747400sp : I have to say even though the USS Midway is not a supercarrier she is still pretty big. But it to bad the Navy decommision the Connie before I move to
33 2912n : Well you might see the Hawk when she returns from Japan one day...
34 FlagshipAZ : Slightly off topic here, but has the Enterprise (CV-65) ever been based in San Diego? Or anywhere on the west coast for that matter? And if I can push
35 LMP737 : If memory serves me correctly the USS Enterprise was never based in San Diego. It was however based in Alameda, California in the eighties and early n
36 2912n : Hmmm. Working off memory here. Over the past 25 years or so... Have to do some research as to what was home ported here during the Vietnam years and b
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