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A C-130 With Only Two Engines?  
User currently offlineMikeN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 3 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 11531 times:

Were there ever any C-130s produced (or modified) with only two engines? I recently received an e-mail from a photographer that took photos of what appears to be a twin-engined Herk! Am I missing something here?

The attached photo was taken on the ramp at Decrane Aircraft Systems Integration Group PATS Inc., Georgetown, Delaware.

Any info is appreciated.

http://www.theaviationzone.com/temp/c130.jpg

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User currently offlineMonocleman From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 11365 times:

Could it be a C-27? From the info I see (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c-27.htm), the C-27 is a modified G222-710 craft from Italy. I could be wrong, just trying to help.

-Will


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11351 times:

I think somebody has been playing with photoshop again!

There was a shorted C-130 proposed in the early 1980's as a twin but it never went anywhere other then the drawing board.

Lockheed eventually teamed with Alenia(I hope I got that right) and partnered with their G-222 aircraft which produced the C-27



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User currently offlineMikeN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 11337 times:

Comeon guys, look at the photo, it's definitely a C-130 of some sort. And no, it's not "Photoshoped". I have an official letter from the photographer that took this shot. I checked everything out before I posted this info. It is authentic.

I certainly know the difference between a C-27 (G222) and a C-130.

Mike


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 11331 times:

On second thought it isn't photoshopped....

Look at the photo....It is the outboard moter we are looking at.

Anybody want to give odds that we are looking at an aircraft where #3 has been removed for maintaince or some other reason.



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User currently offlineDC-10Tech From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 298 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11324 times:

Take a look at the other side of the plane guys, you can clearly see props from two engines. #3 was probably removed.


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User currently offlineFightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 11312 times:

The second props you see behind the plane belong to the next plane staying behind the first.
It could be a C-27, but the nose looks exactly like a Hercules and not like a C-27.

Martin



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User currently offlineDC-10Tech From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 298 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 11309 times:

I noticed that after I posted... *goof*


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User currently offlineMikeN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11297 times:

It is definitely a C-130 with only two engines, one on each side. It's not a C-27 or G222 or whatever, it's a Herk! The photo was NOT doctored in any way.

Comeon, there has to be some Herk guys out there that can shed some light on this.

Mike


User currently offlineAerotech From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 259 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 11268 times:

I remember reading some concepts from Lockheed about a twin engined Herk, as well as a twin jet powered T-tail Herk, (Looked very similar to the YC-14)but I never thought this would make it past the board. I'm stumped.

User currently offlineC17load From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11249 times:

Heh heh.........Mike, it would appear #3 has been removed to me. The external tank is still in place. Could be both inboard motors are off for some reason. It's a Herk for sure tho. The C-27 has a totally different configuration on the windscreen. It's also visibly smaller. I was at Wright Patt when the were doing alot of ground testing on it in the Mid-80's.

I'm thinking this is just a plane missing a motor. The angle of the picture makes it looks like one was never there. Wierd, but cool. I've got over 2000 hr's on 'em, and everything is as it should be in this pic. Wings same size, fuselage, motor size, etc etc. Who knows!

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User currently offlineAerotech From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 259 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (13 years 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11237 times:

I'm going to have to disagree with you on one point there, C17load, the wing does look out of proportion. It's simply too short, as well as lacking in chord. It can't be the full wing. It appears as if the wing were cut right after the #3, because it's well proportioned from the #4 out to the tip.

User currently offlineJohnM From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 347 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 11225 times:

I fly through Georgetown every now and then for fuel. I'll try to get a look at all the parked Hercs and see what the deal is. I know I won't be there in June, but July or Aug is possible. I'm not that motivated to drive there (40 miles or so). I know all of the 130's there are foreign airplanes waiting for sale. I would think the motor or motors were yanked for some reason.

User currently offlineDesmidus From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 3 months 13 hours ago) and read 11238 times:

This is simply a run of the mill C-130 with #3 removed. The wing is exactly as long as it should be from the perspective the picture was taken at.

Take a look at these pictures, similar perspective, to get the idea of how long the wing should be in comparison, and where #3 ought to be located.

http://www.spectrumwd.com/c130/image2/c130_672.jpg

http://www.spectrumwd.com/c130/image2/c130_679.jpg

There are no twin-engined C-130s.


User currently offlineMikeN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 11212 times:

Here is an update I received from the guy that sent me the photo and info....

"The photos I sent to you were received by me from a correspondent. No details, just photos. I had a chance to stop in and visit the airframes on my way back from Virginia Beach and the C-130 in question did have only two engines. The other (inboard engines) had been removed right up to the mounts on the wings. Thus ends the mystery."

I apologize for this ridiculous misunderstading.

Mike


User currently offlineKuchinator From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11153 times:

Well mike, the link to the pic doesnt work, but I'm guessing it was a C-123 Provider, made by Fairchild which well doesn't exist anymore. I think they were bought out by Republic, which doesnt exist anymore either. But anyways back the subject. The C-123 is smaller than a C-130, but almost identical in design, it has 2 engines, and also 2 fuel tanks on the wings. Its much older than the C-130 too, but looks almost identical. Hope this helps

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11147 times:

That makes sense.

It defiantly isn't a C-123 compare....


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User currently offlineKuchinator From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11143 times:

C-123J, this was a C-123 experimenting with turbojets, if you look at the picture closely you can see the J-44 turbojet pod under the wing, but still the plane lacked in alot of areas. The C-123 had numerous models, the J was one of the last. The plane has an interesting history. It started out as a glider in the 1940's, and the government wanted a powered version of it, so they put the 2 engines on it and the rest is history, from the base model C-123B to the C-123K. They are long decomissioned, but there are lots of surplus ones out there still in use. If anyone has seen the movie "Air America" with Mel Gibson, and Robert Downey Jr, they use several surplus C-123's in that movie.

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