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Remaining B-17s Still Flying?  
User currently offlineDodgecharger From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 210 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 13803 times:

I have heard conflicting information and was hoping someone could shed some light on the subject.

First off, how many B-17s are still flying. Next, did any of the B-17s still flying have any combat experience? I have heard that a few did and I have also heard that not one of the remaing B-17s flying ever saw any WWII combat flying. Also, is the "Memphis Belle" flying the real "Memphis Belle" or is another painted as the "Memphis Belle"?

Anyone got an answer?

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User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13754 times:

The Belle that is being preserved in Memphis is the original. Do a google search for their website. Really goes into detail on that airplane.

Tony


User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 13591 times:

Here's something you may want to look at...
http://www.heavybombers.com
This will list all known B-17s, B-24s & B-29s survivors, and known airworthy examples. First time I saw this website, I was on it for hours. Good luck & regards.



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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6293 posts, RR: 33
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 13542 times:

Hours? I've spent days at that site.

As to the original question, no B-17 flying today was in combat during WWII.



Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlineGalaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks ago) and read 13507 times:

Here is a good site on flying/nonflying B-17s

http://www.warbirdsalive.com/wblist/american/b17/b17.htm



"damn, I didnt know prince could Ball like that" - Charlie Murphy
User currently offlineATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2293 posts, RR: 38
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 13438 times:

The Collings foundation currently operates the B-17 "Nine-o-Nine", the B-24 "Dragon and His Tail", B-25 "Tondelayo" plus many other aircraft. You can ride in these aircraft if you donate money to help keep this legends flying. I have met Mr. Collings myself and he is a great man. His foundation's love for aviation has got me watching for their next trip to Pittsburgh. I always make it a must to visit the group when they are in town. THeir URL is as follows,
http://www.collingsfoundation.org/


Have a great day and keep the blue side up.

ATCT



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 13342 times:

Me and several of my friends went up on Nine-0-Nine and Dragon 2 years ago. Its well worth the money for the ride. It gave me new respect for the fighting airmen over Europe/Japan. Absolutely amazing !! Thanks for their web sight ATCT will log on and check it out.


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User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13141 times:

The Collings Foundation's "Nine-O-Nine" and B-24 are gorgeous a/c:


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Both a/c visited us at the Museum last year. It was great to hear the big radials rumble up close.

William


User currently offlineSlamclick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 13113 times:

Seems like just the other day but in the summer of 1973 I flew into Chester CA and found myself sharing the traffic pattern with FIVE B-17's. Even that long ago it was an amazing experience. They were all air tankers and it was a bad fire season. They are far too valuable for such use now.

As a brand-new private pilot in 1965 I just missed a chance to fly a B-17. I've been trying to correct that ever since. Think I'd like to do that over a ride in the space shuttle.

Well, maybe not.






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User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2108 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 13034 times:

We are lucky enough to have Nine-O-Nine come near here to New Smyrna Beach airport (NSB) for maintenance. This year we had the added bonus of having the B-17 Aluminum Overcast (EAA's I believe) down there on tour at the same time. So a CFI buddy of mine and myself hauled ourselved down there in a 172 to see what's doing, and even though we had to switch planes (POH was absent) and ended up there after the 'tour' officially closed, they were gracious enough to let us tour the beauties ourselves.

Inside the hangar they also had the F-4 Corsair that Dale Snodgrass had done a belly landing in at the same airport. Collins son had ditched the F-4 off the coast back in 97 after running out of fuel. Several years and lots of money later, Snodgrass took the Corsair up at NSB without retracting the gear. All's fine. Then 2 days later he takes it up again for some airwork. Right gear won't go down. Retract and try again. No luck. Bounce the bird off the runway on the left main to try and shake the right loose. No joy. So, gear up, engine off and lay it down on the gull wings. Excellent job, no choice, but now that tragic bird is being rebuilt yet again.



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User currently offlineKYIPpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 12903 times:

KYIP is home to Yankee Lady, a B-17 that was made 13 days before WWII ended, so it never saw combat. It served in various civilian roles and was later restored. It is a beautiful airplane!!!


"It starts when you're always afraid; You step out of line, the man come and take you away" -Buffalo Springfield
User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12893 times:

Haveblue,

Sorry to hear about the F4U-5NL, I was really looking forward to seeing it on the air show circuit finally.

I have photo of it going through it's post ditching restoration:

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Dale's a good pilot (met him on several occasions) if he had to belly land it, then there was postively nothing else that he could have done.



At worst, you screw up and die.
User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2108 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 12835 times:

Agreed PPGMD, it is a shame. And you're right about Dale, I have the utmost respect for him as a pilot (not having met him, but seeing him on the airshow circuit for years and his reputation).

On a side note, just found out recently that Dale and Patty Wagstaff were a couple. Might be common knowledge but was news to me. I have a cool picture from a website of Patty in her Laser and Dale in a F-4 (ironicaly) flying formation. They both live near here in St.Augustine. I have met her and respect them both.

Nice picture.



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