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Another MiG 21 Crash In India!  
User currently offlineIndianFlyboy From India, joined Sep 2003, 294 posts, RR: 6
Posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3619 times:

Yet another MiG 21 crash near Jamnagar in Gujrat. The engine flamed out on a routine training exercise. The pilot ejected safely however 4 people on the ground were killed.

More news out here :
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/508758.cms


Regards


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3573 times:

Can I assume that this mig was not participating in Cope India.


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User currently offlineIndianFlyboy From India, joined Sep 2003, 294 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3566 times:

Yes you can L 188 , THANK GOD !!! .Cope India is being held in Gwalior , North of Gujarat.
This aircraft would probably belong to the Operational conversion unit which was moved to the 33rd Wing in Jamnagar. Aircraft type should be the MiG 21 M which is nearing its service life. More details are coming in and the following is the excerpt from various websites:

"Group Capt AV Takurdesia said the aircraft involved in the accident was Type 96 variation which was nearing service completion in the IAF and stood almost on the verge of phase out.

The aircraft was on dummy range flying mission, and had been airborne for over 25 minutes when the pilot notices fuel starvation as he attempted a pull up manoeuvre and was forced to eject out, he said."

Bad stuff man !!

Regards



User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3564 times:

Operational conversion unit?


Why does that suspiciously sound like another title for training unit?



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User currently offlineIndianFlyboy From India, joined Sep 2003, 294 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

It is a training unit , sort of an advanced training unit . Initial flight training and type ratings happen in MOFTU , Tezpur , then the grads move to the operational conversion units.

Regards


User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3477 times:

Interestingly, this isnt first incidence of the "Fuel Starvation" on the Mig-21's . And all these incidents have happened within 50 hours of returning from a major Engine Overhaul from the HAL factory. The Russians have pinpointed certain specific problems in HAL's Overhauling procedures. HAL thinks hte Russians are passing on the blame, the AF seems to tagree with the Russian assesment.

-Roy


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3373 times:

Wouldn't dual engined Aircraft be more reliabile.
regds
HAWK



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3365 times:

Wouldnt Dual engined aircraft be safer?

In a lot of these incidents yes. But the major issue is cost. A locally built Mig-21 can be made for a "mere" 15-20 crores, while other aircraft come for 10 times that amount.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3360 times:

Interestingly, this isnt first incidence of the "Fuel Starvation" on the Mig-21's

Wouldn't dual engined Aircraft be more reliabile.

So the pilots can burn gas twice as fast?
 Laugh out loud



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User currently offlineIndianFlyboy From India, joined Sep 2003, 294 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3410 times:

The problem with this one was fuel pump failure as per the initial reports , there aircraft did not run out of fuel. If that is what caused the crash , hell you can have 3 engines and the aircraft will still have a flameout.

Roy , please post your sources for the claim that IAF agrees with the Russian assesment of using substandard spares. That is too far away from what the IAF thinks or has ever thought.

Regards


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