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Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB  
User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1531 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

It looks like they will start to close it in July 2005, with the last flights in October 2005. They will move to Ramstein and Spangdahlem. They will be added more ramp space at Spangdahlem. They will be building a C-5 hangar, reconstruction of the 10,500 ft runway, new freight terminal, new ramp, new passenger terminal and flight kitchen.

[Edited 2004-03-17 06:00:59]

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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

End of an era.

That is where I landed in Germany in 1992.



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User currently offlineGalaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2699 times:

They have been in the progress of closing Rhein Main since 1996, its just been a skeleton crew working there and some usage as a contingency base, but in 2005 all that will be gone. they have already built the new pax terminal at ramstein, along with ramp space, and are still working on the runway and cargo terminal.


"damn, I didnt know prince could Ball like that" - Charlie Murphy
User currently offlineC17loadmstr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2637 times:

I have spent the last 2 years transiting Rhein Main. In some ways, it's sad to see it go but for the most part, I'm ready to move to Ramstein or Spang. Rhein Main has done a wonderful job with their skeleton crew but the amenities that are enjoyed on other bases such as Ramstein or Spang are not always available if available at all. Ramstein has finally started to show some progress with all the new construction. Hopefully they'll get the runway work done "before" Rhein Main closes.

User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1531 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2592 times:

Where is Ramstein and Spang located? The article I read also said that USAFE is looking at bases in eastern Europe. I would think Poland will open up their bases to the US. Poland seems willing to work and help the US.

User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Ramstien AB is located a couple hours drive southwest of Frankfurt in west central Germany.

User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

beginning of the end of US presence in Germany... Last US troops in Europe after the UK bases closed a few years ago.


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User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

I don't agree that this is the beginning of the end of US presence in Germany. Both Spang and Ramstein are going to be expanded and updated with extended runways, new ramps and cargo facilities.


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineContact_tower From Norway, joined Sep 2001, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

I guess a move had to come, because the civilian airport auth. desperately need the land for expantion of terminals, and even a 4th runway.

They might pop the champange when the USAF leave.  Smile


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2359 times:

"They might pop the champange" Maybe I'm a little bit picky but maybe they should thank the USAFE for many years of service. Berlin Airlift and oh that entire Cold War thing.


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2343 times:

That's certainly true CX747 and I think the airlift memorial will stay even when the Airbase is flattened, but to be honest it's really better for both the USAF and FRA that they move to Ramstein and Spangdahlem.

User currently offlineC17loadmstr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2346 times:

Why exactly do they need that 4th runway? Flights pretty much shut down once the sun goes down. While the traffic pattern does get congested, I never see planes landing on Runway 18. Will this 4th runway be on the 18 heading or make the 09 heading a 3 runway system? i.e. 09R / 09C / 09L



User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

The 4th RWY will most likely be north of the existing main terminal complex and the Autobahn. It will be parallel to the 07/25 RWYs.

There is a dire need for new RWY capacity, as the current coordination figure of 80 movements/ hour is reached or exceeded at virtually every hour between 7 a.m. and 9 p.m. .

RWY18 is used for take-offs only.





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User currently offlineContact_tower From Norway, joined Sep 2001, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2306 times:

I'm sure the Germans thank the USAF for their presence, but I guess the administration of a congested airport have other agendas. The move will free up much needed capacity in the air and on the runway.

EDDF have a lot of flow restrictions, particularly in low viz conditions.
(EDDF show on the AFTN flow flash messages at work several times a day)


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