SXFAN From Greece, joined Jan 2004, 371 posts, RR: 12 Posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8501 times:
Do you believe that the A380 can become the new Air Force One?
If yes what kind of electronic goodies and equipment do you think that it will carry? And which is going to be the amount of luxury added on this extremely special aircraft?
Please unleash your creative imagination and add your comments.
Starlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17422 posts, RR: 66
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8257 times:
Even if Boeing went bankrupt, I think they would rather buy an Il-96 than a Europlane. Or you'd have the President and his Lear or Cessna:D
And even if Boeing went bankrupt, they could buy a pair of used 744s and use them for 30+ years. Besides which, the current VC-25As are nowhere near replacement. They don't really work that much and they are maintained obsessively.
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
CruzinAltitude From United States of America, joined May 2004, 415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8247 times:
Yes it can,
If the Pres ever happened to fly on one (for some very odd reason). But that is about as likely as a Cessna 152 becoming AF 1 for a day.
As far as the US Gov purchasing a A380 for the next AF 1, I truly think it would have to be a VERY cold day in hell for that to happen. Don't get me wrong, I look forward to seeing the SuperJumbo land at LAX some time in the not so distant future, but any President that purchased an A380 will have lost their reelection.
EALSYS1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 229 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7819 times:
The 707 based AF1 was flown for 30 years. The present AF1 is only about 12-13 years old. Why on earth would anyone replace it yet? While it may be based on the 742, it is still state of the art. The built in electronic countermeasures and technology that we as civilians will NEVER see also guarantee its longevity! The amount of money spent on developing the current AF1 means we'll probably see it around for a LONG time!
Rj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 2002 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7358 times:
When the US Gov't asked for candidates for the (current) AF1, it was between the 747 and the DC-10. I don't ever remember any airbus plane even being in the running. Obviously, the 747 won out. It would've been cool to see a DC-10 as the presidential plane though.
CitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2599 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7203 times:
I seriously doubt it for many reasons:
The plane is too big.
It would be political suicide to endorse that product.
The risk of electronic bugging during assembly (remember the US embassy in Russia).
The current 747 probably has probably 20 more years of service.
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: Oh I wouldn't think cost is a factor... I'd imagine Airbus would give the US Government one hell of a huge discount just for being able to thumb their
: I highly doubt it will ever be changed. There are two American governors who would love to run for President right now but can't. I didn't think so ei
: Starlionblue in '04! "Ask not what your airline can do for you, but what YOU can do for your airline!" Running on the Airline Frequent Voter/Flyer Tic
: Executive Order #2: Frequent Flyer Miles can be redeemed on ANY airline.
: I bet the US gov. will do everything it can to look for a US design for the replacement when it's finally time for the current VC-25 to retire a few d
: It wouldn't surprise me if the next US Presidential Bird was a 7E7. 8,000 mile range and can slip into any major city. Newest technology. 747 is a won
: Next it's the "US v EU". But really, isn't the EU simply a duplication of the US I'm laughing On a more serious not, the huge difference between the U
: Next it's the "US v EU". But really, isn't the EU simply a duplication of the US I'm laughing On a more serious note, the huge difference between the
: So they should call it the BU?? Bureacratic Union... God help us if the US, Canada and Mexico try something like this.
: I love the DC-10, but to my eyes the 747 is a much more 'Presidential' looking aircraft. The hump seperates it from all other cylindrical only airline
: If the EU "constitution" passes we'll all be French colonies without a real government, leaving the French president as president of Europe. I think C
: On a more serious note, the huge difference between the US and the EU, and the big factor in the way of more unification in Europe, is that the EU nat
: Good post Cloudy. You summed that up nicely.
: HaveBlue, I don´t think so, they want a tested airframe, which means the B777 if the B747 isn´t made anymore...
: Alessandro, maybe you misread my post. I wasn't implying that I want the 380 for AF1. On the contrary, I love the 747. Didn't want anyone to think I w
: These treads are great entertainment to read!!!! A bunch of pro-Airbus or pro-her foreing marks thinking that the US DOD will buy the european product
: Can't everyone for once grow up, and realize that the US DOD will NEVER allocate a MAJOR contract (executive transport, tanker, fighter or whatever) t
: ohhh....so very MAJOR many of those......the Twotter was huge and costly indeed! T-45 is made and markeded by Boeing I belive, and the B-57? Come on?
: Garnetpalmento: Don't forget the AV-8, various small arms, 76mm OTO Merala on USN FFG's, 120mm Rheinmentall gun on the M-1A1 etc, etc. I think what Co
: "However when it was not economical to do that the DOD has been willing to go to foreign suppliers" We should se a KC-330 soon then? (Comment on T-45
: Well, no A380 AF1 then. Will we ever a EC1 A380 parking next to a new AF1 on important summits? Probably interesting shots on worldwide TV.
: Contact tower: When you look at the history of major DOD acquisitions you will see that for the most part european companies had nothing to offer. F-1
: Oh good! That means DOD will buy abroad if the product is better? I'll keep that in mind next time they shop in house after a specification tailored t
: Or when a company purposely underbids.
: Keesje: "Will we ever a EC1 A380 parking next to a new AF1 on important summits? Yes, and imagine having a An-225 sitting alongside those! You can alw
: Nope...it will never happen... Boeing has been the choice for Air Force One since the last 60 years (or something like that.....correct me if I'm wron
: Anyway, the A380 is way too big Well if A 380 can do without the an accompaning C5 for the cars etc ..
: An Air Force One A380 would still need the accompanying C-5/C-17 to haul around other support equipment such as Marine One. Besides carrying vehicles
: Good post, Cloudy! But no, the EU is not an attempt to copy the USA. That wouldn´t make any sense. You should never say "never" in politics, so who k