Woodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 936 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2802 times:
Yes. Yes. Sometimes. Can be any reason.... They might have a mission to accomplish at the other base, or simply need to get fuel.
Though just like in general aviation, it's usually better to call ahead to arrange the services you want with base ops before landing at the field. It usually doesn't work out too well if you just show up and want fuel as a transient aircraft.
The other base will definitely want to know if you're carrying any VIP's on board.
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Lt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2758 times:
many bases are joint, and/or have duel service ops.
Most bases have transient ramps, though as noted above, unless it is a divert, calling ahead is a plus. Of course bases have ops freqs you can call (with in UHF Range) and arrange parking and transit/fuel, transpo, etc.
here at Tinker, the Navy has a whole side of the base for E-6B TACAMO ops.
Joint Reserve Bases, often have all services there Like NAS Ft Worth JRB (formerly Carswell AFB)
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Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 20 Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2730 times:
USMC units are routinely deployed on USN carriers.
Not only to train and show cooperation but also simply because the USN doesn't have enough Hornets left to meet its needs so they need the USMC to fill that gap.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16560 posts, RR: 52 Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2507 times:
The Pentagon is moving towards Joint operations with regards to training and military facilities, the next round of BRAC (Base Realignment and closure commitee) is going to be making the rounds again soon.
They want to see more consolidation and Joint Operation Facilities to reduce costs.
Lt.AWACs gave the Joint Reserve Base as an example, there's one about 60 miles from me at Willow Grove Pennsylvania.
Willow Grove Joint Reserve Base (JRB) hosts all the branches of the Arm Services in the Reserve and Guard Role.
Based at Willow Grove Joint Reserve base are..
Pennsylvania Air National Guard A-10s
Air Force Reserve C-130s
Marine Corps Reserves Ch-53s
Navy Reserve has two P-3 Patrol Squadrowns (Liberty Bells and Condors)
The Navy Reserve also has a couple Navy Versions of the DC-9.
AFHokie From United States of America, joined May 2004, 224 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2472 times:
As stated above, the services use each other's bases all the time. For the most part the base gets notification of an off station aircraft arriving while the aircrew is building their flight plans.
It's not uncommon to see plans from other bases, as well as other services on the transient ramp, especially if you're at a base that's at a pretty popular location.
At Shaw it's not uncommon to see USMC Harriers from Cherry Point or Hornets from Beaufort in the pattern, or on the ramp. The same goes with helos from all the services. Shortly after I arrived there I was on my way home one night and I saw an ATA 757 on the ramp.
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 20 Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2458 times:
I know the marines are part of the department of the navy (there is no "navy department").
But that means as much as saying that both the navy and the airforce are part of the department of defense (of which the department of the navy is a department...).
It doesn't stop inter-service rivalry, in fact the closest relatives often fight the hardest....
HawaiianHobo From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2423 times:
Here at Davis-Monthan AFB, we get Navy and Marine aircraft in all the time, both because of AMARC and for refueling stops, training stops...etc. I noticed that trend at Hickam as well, just not as often.
Lt-AWACS, are you still flying the E-3 or have you moved on to something else? Can pilots switch A/C types or are they stuck on the same type more or less? I've been meaning to bug you with that question for a while now
Lt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2419 times:
Hobo- I am not a pilot on the E-3, I am a Rated Weapons Officer -ABM, a type of Weapons Controller (the air force has three rated line officer jobs - pilot, nav, ABM- with many sub AFSCs for those). Though I am a private pilot (as are many navs and ABMs, and both careers get some flight training) and hopefully flying with the TXANG by next summer
For my job the only other USAF plane I can go fly on is the E-8 JStars (or NATO E-3 which is considered a "different" system by the Air Force). We used to have the ABCCC (and EC-130) but those are gone. There are GTACS systems (most in Iraq now) and AOCs we can also go to.
But to answer your question- yes pilots switch aircraft all the time. From UPT you can become a FAIP- First Assignment Instructor Pilot, and stay with T-37s or T-6s. You can apply for several types of airframes, and Heavy guys can even try for fighters.
We have several E-3 pilots who now fly B-2s at Whiteman. Other's trying for U-2s.
Chief Master AIC, I like that, though I've made my lead airman my "Brigadier Airman"
Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
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HawaiianHobo From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2405 times:
Thats awesome, hope the TX ANG works out for ya! I remember them visiting us over at Hickam a few times back when I was in the guard, "Best d*mn pilots around" as I recall one of our pilots saying...or something to that effect.
I'm not familiar with the ABCCC, thats not part of the E-4 is it? As far as EC-130s, we still have a few here at DM, ...actually, I think they're in Iraq as I haven't had to work on those rust buckets in a while. (I'm not fond of 130's period)
Hahah, "Brigadier Airman" I gotta use that one day. A buddy of mine gave me the title of Chief Master A1C after losing a stripe going from guard to active AF... we were actually talking about drawing in a wreath around the star Heh, one day I'll trade these stripes in for a bar or two.
DB777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 885 posts, RR: 47 Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2301 times:
You listed four services when there are five military services in the USA. And yes, USCG aircraft land at the other four services airfields when necessary. I rode jumpseat on a Falcon from OPF to Hunter Army Air Field, which hosts CG Air Station Savannah, picked up parts and then flew to NAS Guantanamo Bay where the CG has an air detachment for Caribbean patrols.
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Maiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 51 Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2229 times:
It happens all the time. CGAS Traverse City, home of Five HH-65 Dolphin's gets visiting aircraft from other services all the time. Currently there is an airshow going on and we have seven Blue Angel F/A18's, two USAF F16's, one ANG A10, a Marine C130, a Navy C-9....
AND three VMFA (AW) - 224 F/A18's are based here for training (Not parked on the CG ramp because there isnt a lot of room left)
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29516 posts, RR: 59 Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2226 times:
Actually you might be surprised at the amount of civilian traffic some bases get.
And I am not talking the joint use, Rein-Mein deal either.
A lot of civilian contracts for Airlift occur.
There are some hoops to jump through to get permission to land at a base though. But they generally aren't too difficult. Particularly if you are a lifeguard flight. Where I work we used we used to haul a lot of military and VA patients between bases.
The hard part sometimes is explaining to the ops people what some aircraft are if there isn't a handly military equivelent around. A learjet was easy, it is just a C-21, a Metro is harder, there wheren't that many C-26's running around, a lot of military people have never heard of it.
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