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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7217 posts, RR: 3
Posted (11 years 4 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5267 times:

Malaysia Might Order Airbus A400M: CASA President

Malaysia may soon order European Airbus A400M military transport planes, and even U.S. orders are not out of the question, the head of Spanish aerospace group CASA told the daily La Gaceta de los Negocios in an interview published Jan. 24.

“We have just resumed negotiations with Malaysia and we hope in the short term to be able to announce an order,” Fernandez Sainz said, without giving further details.

Final assembly of the A400M is to take place in Seville, southern Spain under control of CASA, a member of Airbus’ main parent company, the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS).

The transport plane for troops and light armored vehicles, Europe’s biggest joint weapons program, is to take flight in 2008, with initial deliveries scheduled for 2009.

“I think it is not crazy to think this plane could be sold in the United States, which does not have as competitive an aircraft,” Sainz said.

The A400M is designed to compete with the C-130 Hercules built by U.S. defense contractor Lockheed Martin.

In December, South Africa became the first country to order the A400M other than the seven involved in its development; Belgium, Britain, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Spain and Turkey.

To date, 180 orders have been placed for the plane, development of which is expected to cost 20 billion euros ($26 billion).


Well, I wonder how people will react on the remark about selling the A400 to the US  Big grin

It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6618 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5184 times:

"Might order" is far different from "about to buy."

Just because USAF doesn't have a competing product doesn't mean we need it. The U.S. shortfall is primarily in strategic airlift. That spells C-17.

When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1460 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5156 times:

Well, I wonder how people will react on the remark about selling the A400 to the US.

The USAF will probably not buy a huge fleet of C-130J's, it is currently updating its fleet of C-130E,H's to the one standard of C-130X so they are uniform and any pilot can fly them which they cannot do now since the E and H are different configuration's, even H models are different from each other depending on their block number. Buying the A400 is unlikely because we still have a large fleet of 130's that can carry striker brigade and Bradley vehicles with money being spent numerous upgrades. Also with the C-5 being updated engines and avionics and full buy of the C-17 222 airframes likely the service should have what they need. But according to the ARMY the USAF will never enough have of airlift to suit their needs .

I would help you but it is not in the contract
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13605 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5113 times:

I don't think for one moment that the USAF has a requirement for the A400M, let alone a desire to buy it.
However, in the international export market, C-130J might be undermined by the possibility of the USAF having to halt ordering the C-130J.
While upgrading the C-130H seems like a good idea, the C-130E? They are old aircraft, isn't the upgrade mainly about modernizing and standardizing the avionics of the disparate USAF fleet.

User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1460 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5073 times:

While upgrading the C-130H seems like a good idea, the C-130E?

I agree the C-130E's are old but the two active duty wings that fly them in Yakota and Ramstein there hours are not outrageous. The main reason for the X upgrade is that all USAF C-130 Pilots can fly any USAF C-130. With Air Expeditionary Forces it was getting expensive to keep swamping acft every 30 days because follow on forces were not qualified to fly the type C-130 in theater.
One andicdotal reason the USAF is not going to buy the 130J in numbers is a weather unit chases hurricanes got them because of congressional pork barrel politics. They can't use them for the mission at hand, there new prop shred during ops in hurricane weather and the weather radar washes out. The H model with the steel prop soldiers on.

I would help you but it is not in the contract
User currently onlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4556 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4961 times:

The headline of this article is very misleading. Also, is it me or does Airbus (EADS) just say whatever comes to their brain when regarding who might purchase their aircraft? Why on earth would the USAF buy the A400M? Yet again Airbus runs their mouth with useless disinformation.

"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineLMP737 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 5065 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4975 times:


I would say that Mr. Sainz was caught up in the moment. Also someone in his position has to cast the best possible light on future sales. Probably would not have been prudent to say that the chances of the USAF buying the A400M when the possibility exists that the C-130J will be axed is about the same as hell freezing over.

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