Garnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5251 posts, RR: 55 Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8255 times:
Quoting AirOrange (Thread starter): Not likely but will the US presidential plane type change from Boeing 747 to Boeing 7E7 in future? Is there already some news about it?
Unlikely. Usually the flagship of the Executive fleet is a 4-engine, so I'd suspect that if Boeing were to go ahead with the 747Adv, sometime down the road you would see the current VC-25s traded in for a 747Adv variant rather than the 787. Keep in mind though, that the current VC-25s are in excellent condition and aren't that old. As for switching to a 380, let's just say I think it's about as likely as the a.net teens ceasing to play armchair CEO.
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AeroVodochody From Czech Republic, joined Feb 2005, 540 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8104 times:
Wow, by the title of the thread I thought you were serious. Anyway, I doubt it would be an A380 because it would probably be too big. I'm thinking 773ER or 772LR, or a new 747 either the -400 or the Adv. The 787 could probably replace the current 757 right?
Fredplt From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 110 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8028 times:
You probably won't see the Air Force One replaced for a while, it is still way ahead of its time and is in excellent condition. It is possible that someday a 787 or something new will replace it, but for now, I would be surprised to hear news of a replacement.
Fredplt From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 110 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7615 times:
I will be surprised if the US ever buys a plane built outside the US for its military, but one never knows. I believe it will be a long time until you see a change to the current AF One fleet, and yes, whatever plane the president is on, is AF One.
Which is why a KC-380 will be harder than ever to push through. Already people are talking about how PM Blair applied pressure on Bush to 'give back for the EH-101'...
But everyone's forgetting something. The VC-25 is young. It will receive at least 10 more years of service, so dont hold your breath for a replacement. If the -ADV is not launched, which is ever so increasingly unlikely, and if by then no other American manufacturer builds a competing aircraft, the 777 or a similar sized aircraft will almost certainly be chosen. It's nice to have dreams, but they dont always come true...rememeber we dont have to keep going bigger and bigger, there's no sense in that.
Atmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 39 Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7242 times:
Quoting Jwenting (Reply 10): Not a lot. the President flies them maybe once a month on average I think (return trips) and they are relatively lightly loaded during those trips (no cargo and feedstuff for 300+ cattleclass pax).
Well I would imagine the furnishings and communications electronics of the AF1 are fairly heavy, and you have to haul all the reporters and staff around along with their belongings. I'm sure they aren't filling the plane to the brim, but it probably is reasonably well loaded.
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25 Boeing Nut: Man, I can't believe I'm going to say this out loud, but that artists rendering of the A380 in "Presidential Colors" looks pretty damn good. Still not
26 Pilotpip: While the communications gear on the current VC-25 is heavy, I'm sure that through the usage of more modern electronics they could be made much, much
27 Boeing Nut: Agreed. I speculate that if/when a 747-400ADV replaces the current VC-25's, it could also replace the E4-B's as well. With computer and communications
28 Bennett123: Boeing Nut According to the caption, that is a B747-400 not a B747ADV. Are you suggesting that they will buy a B747-400 shortly or that they will buy
29 Dw747400: "I speculate that if/when a 747-400ADV replaces the current VC-25's, it could also replace the E4-B's as well." Updates on the VC-25As are already all
30 MidnightMike: Number of engines is not a requirement for Air Force One, it just happened that to meet the requirements, only "4" Engine aircraft was able to do the
31 Boeing Nut: I figured that the VC-25's were picking up the slack if you will, but I didn't know that it was that advanced. So my theory should work! *Yea, I knew