EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9286 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
None on-line that I know of...but if you can gain access to the video on Air Force One, it has a segment of George H. Bush walking through it after its delivery. Its actually pretty basic.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
IADBGO From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 206 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
I would think you might be able to contact someone at Andrews AFB or the White House and they might supply you with some official shots. But they might also tell you that it is a security issue.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8770 posts, RR: 13 Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
I've been told that the press area is a little bit larger. I've talked to a few people that have been on the plane, and also from what I've seen of the safety card (yes, AF1 has its own safety card, and it's pretty detailed), I believe there are seats up in between where doors 1 and 2 on a standard 747 are. I'm not entirely sure though...but I do remember hearing that the plane can take 70 VIPs/members of the media.
Bennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 6352 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
What no escape pod?.
Seriously, there are few surprises here.
If you think of this as a large Exec jet.
Clearly, the Communications Room conceals many secrets, and "Cargo and Equipment" could mean anything.
EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9286 posts, RR: 13 Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Look for the Discovery Channel DVD on AF1. It has a walking tour of the VC-25. It's pretty indepth....and although the interior is nice, it is by no means luxurious.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
C5onknees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 153 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
my dad went on board AF1 went it was in KSVN for the G8, and got presidential m&m's, a in flight movie card, and something else, he said everything is extremely clean.
SATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting C5onknees (Reply 9): my dad went on board AF1 went it was in KSVN for the G8, and got presidential m&m's, a in flight movie card, and something else, he said everything is extremely clean.
Did they make him wear the AF1 Booties? The crew used to be very particular when it came to the carpet....
C5onknees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 153 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
i dont think so SATL, but it wouldnt surprise me. but get this, a couple ramp spaces over was Japan's Air Force One, and they wouldnt let the TA guys touch the airplane with the stair truck, they made them keep it 2 inches away from the airplane. now thats anal, but Japan's jet was 10x more clean than AF1.
USAFHummer From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 10685 posts, RR: 54 Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Keesje...that third photo down is of a USAF Gulfstream, not of the VC-25...can't tell if its a C-20 or a C-37 though?
Greg
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Ilovenz From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 149 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Yeah, I have mixed feelings about the AF1 interior. I would definitely make it at least look a little nicer on the interior, but then again, this is taxpayer money we're talking about, and being a democracy I think it's better that the interior looks more business-oriented.
I think somebody should publish one of those huge coffee-table books full of pictures of various official government aircraft. I'm sure some of you have seen the Sultan of Brunei's A-340? Now THAT's an official government way to trave!
TaxPilot From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 85 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
If you are in the LAX/BUR area, go see and walk through the old AF1 (27000) at the Reagan library. It is well worth the visit for an A-Netter.
The interior is maintained as brand new, but it is not overly luxurious. Unfortunately they don,t allow pictures inside. It seems rather small inside when compared to the vsual impact of viewing the aircraft from the outside.
ZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3244 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting TaxPilot (Reply 19): Sorry, couldn't get the pictures to post.
BladeLWS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 386 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
There is no escape pod that we know of. From what we know its...
air refuelable
has countermeasures for missiles
the most advanced comms ever to go airborne other than the Airborne Command Posts, eg E-4B
TeamAmerica From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1761 posts, RR: 23 Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting A320ajm (Reply 21): Do you think that it has any security features on that we the general public would think are stupid and myth, such as the escape pod???
This really isn't open to conjecture anymore. We were treated to a peek at USAF Technical Order 00-105E-9, Rev.11 Aerospace Emergency Rescue and Mishap Response Information which was inadvertently posted on a site accessible from the internet. The TO provides information essential for rescue crews, including general arrangement of crew spaces, escape provisions and hazards to personnel. Chapter 7 includes the VC-25A.
There's no escape pod or anything like that. It does have airstairs that extend from the lower deck (i.e. the cargo space) both forward and aft providing entry to compartments on that level, which in turn have stairs up to the main deck. Nothing secret about this, as Bush has been photographed using the lower-deck entry:
Quoting BladeLWS (Reply 22): air refuelable
has countermeasures for missiles
the most advanced comms ever to go airborne other than the Airborne Command Posts, eg E-4B
DEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4422 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Thankfully, the above pictures do not come with the "state secrets" warning as the Il-96 photos in the other thread in CivAv. BTW, I think perseverance paid off in digging up this 1-1/2+ year old thread.
"Everyone is entitled to my opinion." - Garfield
25 RootsAir: Wow, I posted this more than a year and a half ago on my 24 th birthday and the thread is still there...wow !
26 Keesje: time for a little update.. some additional pictures onboard airforce one Funny, if you search for airforce one interiors you are foten guided to this
27 MCIGuy: I can't help but notice the area of highly polished metal on both the VC-137's (saw the one at Pima) and the VC-25's. I have to wonder what it's purpo
28 TeamAmerica: Does it need to have purpose? It just looks good...the polished metal is part of the livery. 1) Viva A.Net! 2) In no small part because of your effor
30 Confuscius: Love the action in the 11th pic damn kids Was that W getting kicked out of daddy's office?
31 Keesje: Looks like Jeb & John Ellis resisting his arrest.. or just fooling around G & B don´t seem impressed.
32 Stoney: What I find interessting according to the floor plan is that there's a room for "comic book storage" right behind the cockpit. Is that really the case
33 Keesje: I assume the comic book storage is the lavatory for the cockpit crew, probably some comic books hanging around there..
34 MCIGuy: Yeah, makes sense when I look at older pics of the VC-137. I saw pic where the forward part of the polished section just terminated in an ugly rectan
35 FighterPilot: Here are some more authentic AF1 pictures. Cal
36 TeamAmerica: That diagram of the "Sacred Cow" is a joke, but the comic book storage does indeed approximate the position of the upper deck lavatory. The diagram y
37 Keesje: There was a detailed one on an Air Force websidelocating things like the seats for secret service people & the location of some oxygen tanks. The whi
38 TeamAmerica: I do have a copy, but please forgive me for not sharing. I'm willing to answer questions on points of curiosity, but I will not post any of the diagr
39 Confuscius: I'm willing to answer questions on points of curiosity, but I will not post any of the diagrams. Why not? We won't tell anyone. It's our own little se
40 Keesje: Who took the sofa? And a few more.. BTW I think I found an upperdeck picture:
41 Centrair: Imagine what a 748i as an AF-1 would be like? Skyloft area could be used! Too bad this one probably won't get retired for another 15 to 20 years. By t
42 TeamAmerica: There's no shortage of space on the VC-25A. The belly is used as a lower deck...lots of room there! Looking at the diagram in Keesje's reply#37, it i
43 Keesje: Had to find them.. (bottles, IR profiles etc. too, will not provoke by linking them) [Edited 2007-03-02 22:57:15]
44 TeamAmerica: Yes, I know, but I preferred not to advertise that fact...they really shouldn't be! The perils of living in a free country I suppose. At least this m
45 Confuscius: (bottles, IR profiles etc. too, will not provoke by linking them) You better not Keesje...or your worst nightmare will come. You wouldn't want this Bo
46 Lurch: The National Geographic Chanel Program on Air Force one is the best Source of info on the Machine that I have ever seen although since it was made the
48 Yellowstone: Has anyone ever taken these photos and tried to composite them into some sort of walkthrough computer model of the airplane? Obviously some parts woul
49 Keesje: Locations of bottles: Source: www.globalsecurity.org unexpected turbulence..
50 TeamAmerica: @ Keesje Gee...you didn't post the details of the anti-missile system. Thanks for that small mercy. The photos are great and much appreciated. As for
51 PC12Fan: My thoughts exactly! I have a feeling that with electronics getting smaller and giving off less heat, the "sky lofts" would be utilized to have the s
52 TeamAmerica: The VC-25A's were loosely derived from the E-4B and share several systems in common. The VC-25A already has the essential "doomsday" communications c
53 SJC4Me: That thing is nicer than some office buildings. If I were president, I would spend all 4 years on board AF1. Let someone else have the white house.
58 Keesje: The AF1 is supposed to have had a retrofit. Now we can start all over again
59 ScrubbsYWG: yes there are pictures from inside. Both from days gone by and from the current admin. If the search were working you could find a thread that was on
68 Keesje: .. and a new face, this probably won't be the last picture. For the occasion I scanned the previous posts for coloured people onboard AF1. Times are c
69 Confuscius: Keesje, thanks for the pics. You've shown us quite a lot but where's the escape pod?!
81 TeamAmerica: This is an old thread, but a favorite of mine (thanks, Keesje!) I had the extreme pleasure of touring one of these aircraft while it was being built u
82 aerlingusa330: How so? He sure loves playing the part: wearing the jacket, eating anything he wants whenever he wants, etc. It's tough to put him in sequence with R
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