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Explain Whiteknight & Spaceship 1  
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Posted (9 years 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

Explain Whiteknight & Spaceship 1
What are they.

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User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1769 times:
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These are competition spacecraft for the X-Prize competition created by Burt Rutan and his Scaled Composites corporation. They recently set the record as the first private manned space flight and won the $10 million prize for the competition. Since then the concept has been purchased by Virgin and Rutan will be creating a 7 passenger concept for commercial space flights. At the current moment, you can purchase advance tickets for these flights at $200,000 a piece. The start of commercial service is slated for 2008.


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5744 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1765 times:

White Knight is a Burt Rutan creation designed to carry Spaceship One to a determined hight for sub-orbital space missions. Both were designed to compete for the Ansari Space X prize ($10,000,000) which they won. The White Knight drops SpaceShip One and the then SpaceShip One ignites a rocket engine to climb to a sub orbital attitude and is actually in space. Notable since it was the first civillian manned spaceflight.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1753 times:

Any links to the Project.
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MEL



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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1739 times:

Here's the Scaled Composites site:

http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1649 times:

Fantastic link. bigthumbsup Thanks.
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MEL



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1640 times:

Explain Whiteknight & Spaceship 1..What are they


Hawk21M-

What planet have you been on...??? That was HUGE news in the aviation comunity last fall. It's been all over the television and I 'think' it was Discovery Channel did a great multi part series on it.



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User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 weeks ago) and read 1620 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 6):
What planet have you been on...??? That was HUGE news in the aviation comunity last fall. It's been all over the television and I 'think' it was Discovery Channel did a great multi part series on it.

It was all over Mil av & space at the time as well:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/military/read.main/23921

I think MEL is just trying to ask as many questions as he can without using a question mark. Some kind of bet he's trying to win.......


User currently offlineN808NW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

I just saw the last flight of them in OSH... nice aircraft indeed. it looks and sounds like they put old DC-9 engines on White knight.

-Jason  swirl 



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User currently offlineAreopagus From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

Quoting N808NW (Reply 8):
it looks and sounds like they put old DC-9 engines on White knight.

The engines are J-85's, the engine used by the T-38 trainer.


User currently offlineSpartan13 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 207 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1547 times:

Well it is absolutely an overwhelming sight to see this thing fly. I remember hearing the sound of the engines approaching from behind the trees, so I start looking into the viewfinder and as it comes over the trees I had to put my camera down for a sec or 2 because I could not believe my eyes.

Ralph



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1522 times:

Quoting Areopagus (Reply 9):

The engines are J-85's, the engine used by the T-38 trainer.

I thought they were Williams'


User currently offlineGreaser From Bahamas, joined Jan 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1517 times:

Quoting N808NW (Reply 8):
I just saw the last flight of them in OSH... nice aircraft indeed. it looks and sounds like they put old DC-9 engines on White knight.

Haha i was there as well! Which days did u go? missed the final takeoff though,  Sad i did however see a harrier do it's thing, along with seeing patty do hers  Wink
WhiteKnight/Spaceship1 and globalflyer were inseperable at EAA, along with Richard Branson there, i took some pics but used film so it'll take ahwile to see the result.
One thing's for sure, global flyer is EXTREMELY quiet, doing a flyby at over 120knots you couldnt hear it coming, only when it passed there was a creepy hum of that williams engine,
Back to topic, Spaceship 1 is a pioneer, like Apollo. It represents the coming of age of the commericial 'galatic' enterprise. Make no mistake though, people were predicting we'd live on the moon by 1998, and im guessing we're 7 years past that? ISS is incomplete, shuttle program in ruins,funding cuts to nasa (at least on the aeronautical side). Government never moves as fast as the private sector, but it'll still be awhile before the average joe flies into space either for fun or for speed.



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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 968 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1507 times:

>> Back to topic, Spaceship 1 is a pioneer, like Apollo. It represents the coming of age of the commericial 'galatic' enterprise.

More like Mercury, or more aptly, a commercial X-15.

>> Government never moves as fast as the private sector, but it'll still be awhile before the average joe flies into space either for fun or for speed.

Government also opens doors that would otherwise be prohibitive for private industry. What the U.S. funded via NASA in the 50s, 60s, and 70s made what Burt Rutan did today possible.


User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 38
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1493 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 13):
Government also opens doors that would otherwise be prohibitive for private industry. What the U.S. funded via NASA in the 50s, 60s, and 70s made what Burt Rutan did today possible.

Well, I think a lot commercial investment by other companies also helped. I doubt SpaceshipOne would not have been possible without, for example, silicon microprocessors hundreds of times more powerful and more compact than the computers and controllers used on previous NASA missions. And we can thank some guys from AT&T for inventing the transistor and making that possible.



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User currently offlineLeanOfPeak From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 509 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1434 times:

TedTAce:

Everything I see says J-85's. GlobalFlyer used a single Williams.


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