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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12374 posts, RR: 47
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4486 times:
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Sorry, but I'm not that hot on military recognition. Am I right in thinking that this is a MiG-21? Anyone know exact variant? Many thanks!




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User currently offlineGhostbase From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 354 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4472 times:

Too late in the evening to hunt this one down but am quite sure is not a member of the MiG-21 family. A lot of things don't look quite right but the dead giveaway is the large wing fence, the triangular winged MiG-21 never had wing fences to the best of my knowledge. My money is on an offshoot of the Sukhoi family, perhaps an Su-22 'Fitter-F'?

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User currently offlineCurlyheadboy From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4456 times:

Quoting Ghostbase (Reply 1):
My money is on an offshoot of the Sukhoi family, perhaps an Su-22 'Fitter-F'?

That's what I thought Ghostbase... some details don't seem to fit though...




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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4451 times:

SU-22 was my first guess....whatever it is, it sure hasn't flown in awhile.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineF4N From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4449 times:

To all:

It looks like the 2 seat variant of the the old SU7 series. I believe the NATO code name was "Moujik" and the designation was "Su7M".

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User currently offlineDrewfly From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 303 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4446 times:

Quoting F4N (Reply 4):
It looks like the 2 seat variant of the the old SU7 series. I believe the NATO code name was "Moujik" and the designation was "Su7M".

He's got it.



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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13165 posts, RR: 78
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4372 times:

Yep, a twin seat SU-7.
So a predecessor of the swing wing SU-20/22 series.

SU-7 was a large tactical ground attack fighter for Soviet Frontal Aviation (a Russian TAC).
Basically similar in role to the F-105.

Primarily a platform for carrying tactical nuclear weapons, it had very limited conventional weapons carrying ability (two centre fuselage pylons for tactical nukes or more usually twin drop tanks, two wing pylons for bombs or rocket pods), a limited internal fuel capacity, but two hard hitting 30mm cannon in the wing roots.
Later SU-7's had four wing pylons.

It's virtues were it's very strong construction, simplicity, good low level performance.
It was widely exported to the Mid East and India, Indian pilots reportedly liked their big SU-7's and rated it against hostile fighters at low level, like many of the Mid East customers, they were used in combat.

SU-7 was part of a family of large supersonic fighters from the Sukoi team, along with the contemporary SU-9 and SU-11 delta interceptors, basically the same fuselage with a delta wing, air intercept radar and AAMs (no guns), for the IA-PVO air-defence forces.
SU-9 had a very short service life, as reportedly it's radar/AAM systems were compromised by espionage, though the AA-1 beam rider AAM's were soon obsolete anyway, SU-11 had improved avionics and AA-3 missiles, these aircraft were pure bomber destroyers for defending the USSR.

SU-7 and SU-9/11 all featured a single large, thirsty turbojet.

From the late 60's, SU-7 was developed into the far more capable swing-wing SU-20/22 series, with much better airfield performance and warload/radius, improved engines and avionics.
SU-9/11 were replaced by the SU-15, a whole new aircraft with a radar nose, side fuselage intakes, twin engines, but their only 'kill' was to be the KAL 747 in 1983.


User currently offlineIakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3312 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4309 times:

I cannot copy the pic, but the fourth one on this site page is taken from almost the same angle as your initial pic.
SU-7U or -UMK

http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/planes/museum/su7/gallery/


User currently offlineHaveBlue From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2098 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4244 times:

GDB, not the 'only' kill after all. This is copied from the link in lakobos' post above.


"The widest media coverage was given to 2 instances of "shoot-down" deployment of the Su-15. The first incident took place on 20th April 1978 in Karelia, when a South Korean Boeing 707, en route from Paris to Anchorage, violated the USSR’s airspace around Murmansk. The intercept mission of a Su-15TM aircraft was flown by a pilot of the ADF's 431st FAR, Cpt A.I. Bosov. All attempts to persuade the Boeing 707 into a forced landing having failed, the pilot was ordered to shoot down the intruder and fired a R-98MR missile at it, following which the damaged Boeing landed on the iced over Korpiyarvi lake. In the course of the incident fragments from the exploding rocket killed 2 passengers and wounded 10.

The second incident took place on the night of 1st September 1983, when another passenger jet, a Boeing 747 flying the Anchorage-Seoul route, was intercepted and shot down in the Far East. The action to intercept the aircraft, which had strayed into USSR airspace over Kamchatka and Sakhalin involved, among others, a pilot of the 777th FAR, Major G.N. Osipovich, who took the Su-15 aircraft on alert off the ground and was ordered to shoot down the intruder. It is believed that the incident brought about the death of 269 people onboard the Boeing 747.



What is less known is the fact that a Su-15 was used to perform a successful ramming manoeuvre. On 18 July 1981, the USSR's Transcaucasian airspace was penetrated by a CL-44 type transport aeroplane inbound from Iran. The intercept mission was flown by two of the 166th FAR's Su-15s, one of the planes piloted by Cpt V.A. Kulyapin. Given the time constraints of the situation, with the intruder about to escape across the border, Kulyapin, having been ordered by ground control to prevent it, had to engage by ramming it, following which he succeeded in saving himself by ejecting. The pilot was decorated with the Order of the Red Star for his heroism."



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12374 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4217 times:
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Thanks for the responses guys. I may have another 'quiz' for you in a couple of days!  wink 


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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13165 posts, RR: 78
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4006 times:

Thanks for the clarification HaveBlue (for those who were unaware, 'Have Blue' was the designation for the 'Stealth' programme including, I think, the F-117 Prototypes or whatever they were called. 'Technology Demonstrators' perhaps?)

Of course, SU-15, like all IA-PVO aircraft, operated under tight ground control.


User currently offlineCURLYHEADBOY From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3987 times:

Quoting GDB (Reply 10):
for those who were unaware, 'Have Blue' was the designation for the 'Stealth' programme including, I think, the F-117 Prototypes or whatever they were called. 'Technology Demonstrators' perhaps?

To my knowledge it was the name of the F-117 prototypes...




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