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Did Nasa Put Men On The Moon?  
User currently offlineThowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 363 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7774 times:

I am just listening to a phone in programme here in the UK, discussing the planned moon landings, and according to their poll, 61% of the listeners think that man has never landed on the moon.

What do you think?

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User currently offlineVzlet From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 833 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7769 times:

73% of people think that there are no phones in the UK, so it's possible that the program you listened to was in fact a hoax.


"That's so stupid! If they're so secret, why are they out where everyone can see them?" - my kid
User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7752 times:
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Quoting Thowman (Thread starter):
I am just listening to a phone in programme here in the UK, discussing the planned moon landings, and according to their poll, 61% of the listeners think that man has never landed on the moon.

What do you think?

There's a guy here in the States called Art Bell who has hundreds of thousands of listeners, and there are similar numbers of people who buy the National Enquirer every week.

There's people that think the professional wrestling is on the level.

I think they're all nuts.



Is my Pan Am ticket to the moon still good?
User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7726 times:

I get a kick out of the people who want to know why there are no stars in the photos from the moon..... Apparently they have never been outside on a sunny day here on earth.....  Smile

User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5364 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7720 times:

Quoting Thowman (Thread starter):
What do you think?

I think you should go up to Buzz Aldrin and ask him yourself  box 

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-35441.html

http://www.csicop.org/articles/20021...aldrin/buzz-aldrin-punch-video.mpg

Seriously though - I have no doubts whatsoever that man has walked on the Moon.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineDuce50boom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7717 times:

Quoting Thowman (Thread starter):
and according to their poll, 61% of the listeners think that man has never landed on the moon.

People can come up with statistics to prove any point. 47% of people know that


User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7717 times:

Just goes to show you how ignorant modern society is of priceless history....everything is a hoax (AA flight 77)

Back in the Apollo days, you probably couldn't find a soul in the (civilized) world who didn't know about it, and probably very few Americans weren't proud of it.

Just like ol Buzz....nice video.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7712 times:

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 6):
Back in the Apollo days, you probably couldn't find a soul in the (civilized) world who didn't know about it

Damned straight!!

I know I was glued to the TV for the entire mission....


User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7684 times:

Quoting Duce50boom (Reply 5):
and according to their poll, 61% of the listeners think that man has never landed on the moon.

People can come up with statistics to prove any point. 47% of people know that

50% of people think we use 15% of our brain 90% of the time, while 10% of the 50% of people think that these people are nuts 100% of the time.


User currently offlineCloudy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7663 times:

NOBODY at the time it was done thought it was a hoax. Not the Soviets. Not the thousands of geologists from all over the world who saw the moon rocks. Not a single professional astronomer or engineer ever said such a thing,at least in 1969. There were plenty of powerfull people arround the world who had a lot to gain from exposing any hoax. None of them even tried.

That being said, the fact that anybody believes this just underlines how far the US manned space program has fallen.


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7644 times:

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 4):
I think you should go up to Buzz Aldrin and ask him yourself

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-35441.html

http://www.csicop.org/articles/20021...aldrin/buzz-aldrin-punch-video.mpg

Seriously though - I have no doubts whatsoever that man has walked on the Moon.

I'm not one for settling ones differeneces by punching somone in the face but in this instance I'll make an exception. How embarrasing is that, getting your bu kicked by a man in his seventies! And then having the nerve to make a complaint. Seriously though, I put Mr. Sibrel in the same category as the people who believe the "pod theory" about the planes that hit the WTC.

All these people have one thing in common. They all believe that they so much smarter than the rest of us and we are a bunch of "sheep". In actuality there nothing more than a bunch of half wits with nothing better to do.


User currently offlineAviationMaster From Switzerland, joined Oct 1999, 2479 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7636 times:

Don't you think that had NASA not put men on the moon we would have heard something from the Soviets (especially right after the Apollo 11 mission)?

User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13170 posts, RR: 78
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7628 times:

I regard this question as a test of not only basic knowledge, but also of common sense, ask it with any seriousness and you failed, sorry.

User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3517 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7589 times:

I just look on the following facts:

The Saturn V launched. Many people saw that.

There is a mirror on the moon which is used today to measure the distance from earth to moon. Maybe a robot could have placed it there, as well. But is it more likely to have an automised robot landing on the Moon in 1969? If you can do that, you can also land on the moon.

The moon missions brought stones back to earth. These were not from earth, so where did they come from?

These 3 facts are enough for me.

But the 4th is even more obvious: As it already was said before, the Soviets would have notified the world at once if there had been no moon landing!

Michael


User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7583 times:

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 13):
There is a mirror on the moon which is used today to measure the distance from earth to moon. Maybe a robot could have placed it there, as well. But is it more likely to have an automised robot landing on the Moon in 1969? If you can do that, you can also land on the moon.

The Soviets landed a robot on the moon in 1970 which also had a laser reflector (mirror). They were unable however to successfully land a man on the moon.


User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5364 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7559 times:

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 14):
The Soviets landed a robot on the moon in 1970 which also had a laser reflector (mirror). They were unable however to successfully land a man on the moon.

Not for lack of trying though. The problem they had was that the N-1 rocket which they intended to use never had a successful test and none of them even got to second stage ignition.

http://www.myspacemuseum.com/n1.htm



After the repeated failures of the N-1 and the fact that we beat them there...there wasn't much purpose in continuing with the program.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7525 times:

I am sorry but it is all LIES...LIES... LIES

NASA DID NOT PUT MEN ON THE MOON.

I DID. I used over 1 billion Estes Kits!!!!!

Every once in awhile Japanese TV shows that crap about no man ever went to the moon. My students bugged me about it till I finally sat them down and gave them a lesson in light, gravity and SCIENCE. Some were actually inspired others found it annoying.

But I didn't tell them the realy truth...I PUT MEN ON THE MOON. LONG LIVE ESTES!!!!!!



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineDuce50boom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7513 times:

Quoting Boeing Nut (Reply 8):
50% of people think we use 15% of our brain 90% of the time, while 10% of the 50% of people think that these people are nuts 100% of the time.

I'm still amazed at how many people believe that 10% crap. Snopes.com people, it's worth the neurons


User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7508 times:

Quoting Boeing Nut (Reply 8):
50% of people think we use 15% of our brain 90% of the time, while 10% of the 50% of people think that these people are nuts 100% of the time.

And 9 out of 10 experts agree that the 10th expert really needs to chill out.



I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7482 times:




Controversies everywhere  Smile
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7437 times:

If you have a telescope sharp enough to pick up the flag and lunar lander at landing area at Sea of Tranquility, that would eliminate all doubts....


The engine is the heart of an airplane, but the pilot is its soul.
User currently offlineCloudy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7431 times:

Quoting Bmacleod (Reply 20):
f you have a telescope sharp enough to pick up the flag and lunar lander at landing area at Sea of Tranquility, that would eliminate all doubts....

No it would not. They would say the telescope is a fake as well. Show them experts examining the and they will simply question the integrity of those experts. If all else failed, they would say the flags were planted by a robotic mission. That is what they do with all the other evidence we are presented with. If anyone has truly heard all the evidence that we really went to the moon and still believes we did not, nothing can help him. Since belief in the moon hoax is not based on evidence in the first place, I fail to see how new evidence could be persuasive.


User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3078 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7381 times:

I wonder how many in here think it ws a hoax but will not say anything for fear of us jumping all over them...

G



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineThorny From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7366 times:

Quoting Bmacleod (Reply 20):
If you have a telescope sharp enough to pick up the flag and lunar lander at landing area at Sea of Tranquility, that would eliminate all doubts....

If the idiots don't believe pictures taken on the scene, why would they believe pictures taken from 200,000 miles away?


User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7363 times:

Quoting Thorny (Reply 23):
Quoting Bmacleod (Reply 20):
If you have a telescope sharp enough to pick up the flag and lunar lander at landing area at Sea of Tranquility, that would eliminate all doubts....

If the idiots don't believe pictures taken on the scene, why would they believe pictures taken from 200,000 miles away?

In any case Hubble took pictures of the Apollo 15, 16, and 17 sites last month....


25 Scbriml : It's a well known fact that 87.63% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
26 Speedbird747 : Back in 1969 many astronomers saw Apollo 11 on its way to the moon through their telescopes... Quite difficult to fake something like that, me thinks.
27 Post contains links SATL382G : I looked for the pix yesterday before I posted the above but they haven't shown up yet. What I know I got from nasawatch.com at this link: http://www
28 WhiteHatter : I'm still convinced that 1. NASA did in fact go to the moon 2. The pictures, however, were faked. reasoning for 2 is this. The astronauts used convent
29 MissedApproach : Awesome! I only wish he had been punched that Micheal Moore freak instead!
30 Post contains images TFSPhoto : Where's Wally.. I took this photo 10 mins ago.. Lew
31 Garnetpalmetto : Actually they did not use conventional film, but film specially developed by Hasselblad specifically for hostile environments. As an extra precaution
32 WhiteHatter : doesn't negate what I proposed though. It might have been specially developed but did it actually work as planned? Film has to be exposed after all..
33 Garnetpalmetto : I'm going to go with Occam's Razor on this one and go with the simplest explanation - that the film in fact did work. Besides, if NASA was cooking th
34 DfwRevolution : >> It might have been specially developed but did it actually work as planned? You have no way to prove that it didn't. >> In space and on the moon t
35 Thorny : This is just plain silly. The film (not conventional but specially made) can be and was protected from radiation (which isn't constantly lethal, by t
36 WhiteHatter : Unless someone does eventually come forward with verifiable and authorative evidence then nobody can. No it is not. There has been much debate about
37 Thorny : Ahem. These two statements are mutually exclusive. If the film was that important to NASA, which it was, they would have put a lot of effort into mak
38 SATL382G : ... as well as other film cameras on the LM aside from the Hasselblads... This theory seems to "ignore" those cameras. How about it WhiteHat, why did
39 WhiteHatter : Do try to show some intelligence. I am merely putting forward a theory which could cover both sides. Nowhere have I stated what I actually believe. M
40 SATL382G : How quickly you forget........ Now would you care to tell us what these "irregularities" are? What about the other cameras WhiteHat? Why did the non-
41 SATL382G : So you don't actually believe your own "theory". Why bother to post?
42 Thorny : And, apparently, refusing to address evidence which we have raised which very clearly destroys your theory. Instead, you resort to name-calling. This
43 Alessandro : Yes, the Soviets and Chinese would´ve loved to show NASA as liars, so I don´t think anyone would´ve dared to fake such thing 6 times and why then t
44 Post contains links Aeroguy : Here's a website that I've always thought was a good read: http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
45 GDB : NASA did put a lot of effort into film on the surface, as stated, the radiation thing is way overdone, it's just one of those words that seems to caus
46 Post contains links Eaglekeeper101 : " target=_blank>http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/f....html In addition to this site, I recommend a visit to http://www.clavius.org Quite informative
47 Gary2880 : if it had been faked the russians would have been all over americans i too saw that program the other night, i enjoyed the part with the skeptic where
48 Post contains images Halls120 :
49 GDB : I would direct the lame brains to 'Exploring The Moon' by David M Harland, ISBN 1-85233-099-6 (Springer Praxis). This concentrates on the three J miss
50 Ha763 : The National Geographic Channel also has done a documentary about the so-called fake moon landing by conspiracy theorists called, Conspiracy Moon Land
51 SlamClick : Actually in July 1969 while Armstrong and Aldrin were on the surface, a bartender in Panama asked me: "You think maybe they just went out here in the
52 Post contains images Jafa39 : 68.7% of women would probably disagree...........
53 DeltaGator : As someone who grew up in sight of the space center and whose family was deeply tied to it (my grandfather was the purchasing officer in charge of get
54 LMP737 : Caught part of the show Monday night. Have to wonder if any of the people on it who claimed that the landings were a hoax will even acknowledge the m
55 Post contains images SATL382G : Given that the one conspiracy guy was a retired tech pub librarian and now an owner of a cat sanctuary, and that the people who were disputing what h
56 LMP737 : You are probably right.
57 Post contains links and images JeffSFO : Correct. Apparently, those S-IVB fuel dumps were pretty easy to spot: http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/apollo.html Uh, okay. So NASA faked thousands
58 Post contains links JeffSFO : " target=_blank>http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...ssion Sorry, but I goofed on the Apollo 17 image link. Here's the correct one: http://www.hq.na
59 Cloudy : Plus, faking it would require the expertise of not only scientists but Hollywood people. Expecting actors, directors, etc. not to spill the beans wou
60 AerospaceFan : I can't believe there is a movement (albeit a very small, minor one, IMHO) to "expose" the Moon landings as fake. Give me a break! It defies simple co
61 Post contains images EGTESkyGod : Maybe NASA should send one of these doubters to the moon to see what they say afterwards. Then again, why spend millions of dollars on these twats tha
62 Bennett123 : A lot of doubts have concerned the films and exposure to radiation. According to some, Airport X Rays will affect camera film. I have travelled throug
63 WhiteHatter : JeffSFO Note I didn't change your username to insult you. Which in itself is telling. Way to go, you can't debate something civilly so you just insult
64 AerospaceFan : Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof. So far, every single bit of "evidence" that there are any -- any -- unexplainable anomalies in offic
65 Post contains links David L : I'm staying out of the photo debate - after seeing so many of the so-called anomalies explained rationally there just came a point when I thought it w
66 Post contains images Gilligan : They got to second stage ignition, just not the way they planned!
67 Post contains images Andz : My mother still doesn't believe it. Have you ever seen the movie Capricorn One? Reminds me of an old lady in a little village being interviewed about
68 Post contains images David L : Great film but the "evidence" therein is all stuff which can be easily discounted from the Apollo missions, e.g. lack of transmission delays, pre-lau
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