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Travis Air Force Base Questions  
User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 day ago) and read 4920 times:

I was looking at satellite images of Travis Air Force Base and noticed that there is alot of empty ramp space on the western portion of the base. Also, there seems to be fighter aircraft dispersal parking. Has the bases operations shrunk recently or is there only a fraction of the aircraft there at the time this image was taken?


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User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day ago) and read 4901 times:

Travis used to be a SAC base. It used to be that bombers were dispersed about the airfield. Dispersal made sense for bombers, if one had an accident and set off it's bomb load it wouldn't takeout nearby bombers if they were dispersed. Airlift on the other hand needs to be grouped together on the ramp to efficiently load and unload the aircraft.

Probably not related but the base got its name when a bomber, piloted by a gentleman named Travis, crashed near the base and dispersed it's nuclear payload. The aircraft carried a nuke bomb casing but without the radiological package.

http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/Travis_B-29_crash_site.htm

As for the fighter areas, many Air Force bases used to have an alert fighter mission during the early portions of the cold war. The alert hangars were generally close to the end of the runway


User currently offlineC17loadmstr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 18 hours ago) and read 4847 times:

Thanks for the history lesson SATL382G. I had no idea on how Travis AFB got it's name. I figured it had gotten its name from a Lt who crashed early in aviation history.

User currently offlineDuce50boom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 18 hours ago) and read 4843 times:

Great link SATL. I ejected the contents of my stomach into a trash can at that very same baseball diamond not 3 weeks ago!

Small world


User currently offlineSATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 4829 times:

Quoting Duce50boom (Reply 3):
I ejected the contents of my stomach into a trash can at that very same baseball diamond not 3 weeks ago!

 Smile You're not flourescing are you?  Smile


User currently offlineDuce50boom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 9 hours ago) and read 4828 times:

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 4):
 Smile You're not flourescing are you?  Smile

Hope not. I think I was more at risk stationed near the BOMARC site in jersey than here at SUU though  Wink

That night was closer to alcohol poisoning that radiation poisoning  vomit 


User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4136 times:

I have noticed Travis AFB has a unique layout:

http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0606/00488AD.PDF

I am not familiar with the Fairfield, CA area, but why do they have two runways that are both 3/21s but they are not exactly parallel? They are off set by the length of the runways. Thanks,

David

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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4122 times:

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 6):
I am not familiar with the Fairfield, CA area, but why do they have two runways that are both 3/21s but they are not exactly parallel? They are off set by the length of the runways. Thanks,

Not sure why they are set off, but they are aligned with prevailing wind direction in that location - which is brisk most of the time, and either coming from or going to the Carquinez Straits.


User currently offline10boomer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 57 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4095 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7):
either coming from or going to the Carquinez Straits

Mostly from, we're on 21 the vast majority of the time



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User currently offlineGhostbase From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 354 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4077 times:

The size of some CONUS bases is quite remarkable and Travis AFB is no exception at 6258 acres. Interesting to read that the B-36 used to be based here as well as the B-52G which was operated by the 5th Bombardment Wing (Heavy) from 1959 to 1968 along with the KC-135A equipped 916th Air Refueling Squadron. Imagine the space needed for that lot!


Quoting SATL382G (Reply 1):
Travis used to be a SAC base. It used to be that bombers were dispersed about the airfield. Dispersal made sense for bombers, if one had an accident and set off it's bomb load it wouldn't takeout nearby bombers if they were dispersed.

Interesting. I did not realise that SAC practiced dispersal at their CONUS bases back in the cold war days although they certainly did at their B-47 bases here in the UK. Most of the photos of the period show ramps groaning with dozens of aircraft. There is an interesting scene in the film 'Strategic Air Command' at Carswell AFB where an unauthorised DC-3 lands on the base and when the plane is surrounded by armed soldiers all that can be seen is acres of shiny silver B-47's! How common was dispersal at a large base like Travis AFB?

 ghost 



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User currently offlineFlyUSCG From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4070 times:

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 6):
I am not familiar with the Fairfield, CA area, but why do they have two runways that are both 3/21s but they are not exactly parallel? They are off set by the length of the runways. Thanks,

My GUESS here is just for ease/efficiency of taxiing. The aircraft can land on the left runway (either direction) and then just roll out to their parking area while the aircraft take off on the right runway (either direction) as the tarmac is right there pretty much at the hold short point. Key word in all this is "GUESS".

...fly a C-5 or B-52 into the base in FS2004 and it's quite nice when you dont have to taxi all over the damn place



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4051 times:

Quoting 10boomer (Reply 8):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7):
either coming from or going to the Carquinez Straits

Mostly from, we're on 21 the vast majority of the time

I thought that might be the case. I used to live in Sacramento, and when driving to the Bay Area, I rarely saw takeoffs to the NE.


User currently offline10boomer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 57 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4016 times:

Quoting FlyUSCG (Reply 10):
My GUESS here is just for ease/efficiency of taxiing. The aircraft can land on the left runway (either direction) and then just roll out to their parking area while the aircraft take off on the right runway (either direction) as the tarmac is right there pretty much at the hold short point. Key word in all this is "GUESS".

Good guess, I cant say if the runways were configured for that purpose but that's pretty much how we use them. When we are on 21, we depart on 21R and land on 21L. When we are on 03, we depart 03R and land on 03L



Fly Gucci
User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

Quoting Ghostbase (Reply 9):
CONUS bases

- What is a "CONUS base?"

Thanks

David

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User currently offline10boomer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 57 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3985 times:

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 13):
What is a "CONUS base?"

It refers to bases in the CONtiguous United States



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